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Re: Tmux 2.0 released

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Because it's how 99% of websites get their funding, allowing them to survive. Why have an adblocker installed when you can avoid the sites with obnoxious adverts?

>Because it's how 99% of websites get their funding, allowing them to survive. So then, I'll unblock ads to help companies survive just as soon as those companies start giving me money to help me survive.

If you don't value what the website is giving you, why are you visiting it?

Re: Tmux 2.0 released

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Say you want to attach to session 0 (use `tmux list-sessions` to see available sessions). A trick I've found is not attaching to that session, but starting a new session sharing all underlying windows. The model in tmux is [session]->[windows]->[panes], but something I did not realize until recently is that [session] can be multiple. So rather than `tmux attach -t 0` use `tmux new-session -t 0`, allowing you to inter…

I don't have any issue with the session itself being shared. It's actually the desired behaviour almost all the time. I just don't want to be dependent on the frame sizing of a terminal no one's even looking at.

jbnicolai's method kinda solves this for me. The upshot is the set of windows is mirrored between both clients, but they can each be looking at different windows. You still have a problem if the other client is looking at the same window that you're on, though.

Re: Tmux 2.0 released

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Because it's how 99% of websites get their funding, allowing them to survive. Why have an adblocker installed when you can avoid the sites with obnoxious adverts?

Sometimes I have to get useful tools from them....like tmux. As to why I use Adblock, I've never. Not once. Ever. Bought anything from an ad on a website. I _have_ bought books and such from the referral links on blogs (which adblock doesn't block). The reason I use adblock is because I'm not the demographic ads on websites are targeting. So websites aren't losing any revenue by me not seeing their ads.

Websites absolutely do lose money when you block their ads. Regardless of what one chooses to do, you should be aware of the facts.

Re: Tmux 2.0 released

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Sometimes I have to get useful tools from them....like tmux. As to why I use Adblock, I've never. Not once. Ever. Bought anything from an ad on a website. I _have_ bought books and such from the referral links on blogs (which adblock doesn't block). The reason I use adblock is because I'm not the demographic ads on websites are targeting. So websites aren't losing any revenue by me not seeing their ads.

Adverts are not just about getting a click to follow through to a purchase. What do you gain by blocking adverts? An extra 150K from your data plan? >websites aren't losing any revenue by me not seeing their ads. This argument is a little too close to justifying piracy for my liking. "I wasn't going to buy it anyway, so it's fine"

What do you gain by blocking adverts? An extra 150K from your data plan?

Quicker page loads, avoiding seizure inducing ads that are designed to attract your attention in an overly aggressive way, better visibility of text because it's not surrounded by flashy pictures, animations and videos. Plus avoiding Flash/Java/JS ads poisoned with malicious content.

And, oh yeah, and ~150K that won't hit my data plan.

For the record, I don't block all ads. I have sites that I allow them on because I am a frequent user and their ads are not too obnoxious to deal with. If my page views (never clicks though) help them then great! But I surf with the blocker on by default for the reasons laid out above.

Re: Tmux 2.0 released

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Well, no need to really look forward... You already have every one of those capabilities with Emacs. >you could put together anything from a simple test/editing environment to a full-blown IDE. People already do this with Emacs.

Emacs is great and I know lots of people who love evil mode. I prefer vim because it comes pre-installed - good for ops. Many of my tools have embedded Lua, so it's great that I can exercise my Lua skills with Neovim. None of my other tools embeds elisp, so for me, elisp is a dead-end.

Neovim won't be preinstalled for a long time. Possibly it never will be. Also, writing Elisp is not far from writing Guile Scheme, and there are many tools that embed Guile.

Re: Tmux 2.0 released

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It makes me sad to see a respectable piece of open source software hosted on this site with its intrusive advertising practices such as ads with fake "install" buttons on the download page. What is the advantage of using Sourceforge these days when github and bitbucket are free for open source?

> What is the advantage of using Sourceforge these days when github and bitbucket are free for open source?

I imagine the author figures that moving is a pain.

Don't forget, Sourceforge was the Github of yesteryear. I imagine in 10 years we may very well be asking the same of some old project hosted on Github.

Re: Tmux 2.0 released

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The release notes don't say: Is this a session-breaking update? I'd hate to run the update only to have it kill my current TMUX session. Devs - if you're reading this: PLEASE indicate if I could update without restarting the session.

have you tried something like tmuxinator so create/restore sessions?

Re: Tmux 2.0 released

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Sometimes I have to get useful tools from them....like tmux. As to why I use Adblock, I've never. Not once. Ever. Bought anything from an ad on a website. I _have_ bought books and such from the referral links on blogs (which adblock doesn't block). The reason I use adblock is because I'm not the demographic ads on websites are targeting. So websites aren't losing any revenue by me not seeing their ads.

Of course they lose revenue. your view is like any other. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_per_impression ) you won't be taking money from the company, which started the ad campaign. also: don't underestimate the effects on brand value, which will come subconsciously, if you look at ads. You will know certain companies are still active etc. This is why you don't necessarily need to be targeted. simply informed. Th…

> don't underestimate the effects on brand value, which will come subconsciously, if you look at ads.

This is exactly why I use adblock.

Re: Tmux 2.0 released

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I'm looking forward to the combination of Tmux and Neovim. Both (will) support detached/shared sessions, both are scriptable/configurable, both can be driven by a remote process. I believe with Tmux and Neovim you could put together anything from a simple test/editing environment to a full-blown IDE.

Well, no need to really look forward... You already have every one of those capabilities with Emacs. >you could put together anything from a simple test/editing environment to a full-blown IDE. People already do this with Emacs.

Last time I tried ansi-term and friends (not that long ago), it was very slow and struggled rendering my fairly vanilla (by some people's standards) shell prompt. Neovim's terminal emulation, by contrast, is a very great deal faster and can run Neovim inside itself with no discernible issues.
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