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What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by spiritplumber »

harryh wrote: post #78
trhway wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 1st doesn't protect from firing when you trash your employer in public. It protects your trashing, not employment :)

The first amendment doesn't apply to my employer as I work for a private company, so you are right there. But is that true for cops who work for the government? I'm honestly not sure.

The first amendment does apply to your employer in that he can't muzzle you, or have you beaten up from speaking out. The worst your employer can do is fire you, which happens often, and that's fine.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by spiritplumber »

mc32 wrote: post #22
kw71 wrote: post #18

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What would you expect would happen to you if you made such a brazen, public display of disrespect against your executive management? Would you have your job after? They certainly could have gone on strike, when they were not on the clock.

They have strong unions. That allows them lots of things regular workers don't get. Unionized workers get these kinds of benefits --not that I agree with unions, as I think they are past their expiration date, but the strong ones provide great extra-work related benefits. Similarly longshores get pretty sweet benefits too.

Dock work is pretty backbreaking - I'm in favor of people who do that year round, rather than four weeks to make some extra cash for the summer one time like I did, getting good pensions and good health care. You only have one spine and it's gotta last you a lifetime.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by spiritplumber »

joshstrange wrote: post #8

I honestly didn't think you could be arrested for protesting like this without at least a warning and even then if only if it turned violent...

You can be arrested for pretty much no reason.

You can be "briefly" (up to a day, and in some places up to the whole weekend if you are processed on Friday night) detained for pretty much any reason other than no reason.

One time, I was detained for three hours on suspicion of DUI because I was on my front porch with my car keys in my pocket... and not a drop of alcohol or drugs in my system, execept I was woozy from sleep deprivation.

Eventually they had me pee in a cup and then let me go. Since we talked IT with the medical person that was there, and he got a few tips out of me, I billed the PD for time at my consulting rate, and to my surprise six months later they paid the bill.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by spiritplumber »

bjelkeman-again wrote: post #110
saboot wrote: post #108

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> tbh, I'm German and while we have our own issues with police, conduct like this is next to unheard of. Can I be a german please? I'm just about serious at this point.

If you work in IT I am sure it can be arranged. It will take a bit of time though. Get a job with a EU based company (in the Schengen agreement), but in their local office to you. Work for a couple of years there. Then get a transfer to one of their EU offices. Work there for a number of years. Apply for citizenship. The process is of course more complicated than that and dependent in which country you pick, but that…

I think part of it is that in Italy, and I'd guess in Germany too... well, we have "being a police state" in living memory, so nobody wants to start being THOSE guys again. It keeps police-state tactics in check.

I'm Italian, moved to the US a few years back.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by comrh »

> The police officers in the front of the wagon were taking selfie videos of the crazy race-car style driving and posting to Snapchat stories that they shared with each other and boasted about openly in front of us, laughing.

Mind blowing. The behavior part of the nation is completely up in arms about, they still see fit doing.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by simplexion »

Snesker wrote: post #32
Hobotron1 wrote: post #19

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> We can find other people to be police officers. Can we though? I sure as shit don't want to be one.

They don't want you, you're probably too smart. http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/sto...

Feels good to be too intelligent to be a Cop in the USA.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by tomjen3 »

task_queue wrote: post #57
mschuster91 wrote: post #45

> This was super distressing for a lot of people, as those belongings usually included wallet, phone, and keys. So after you are done at Central Booking, you are basically left with no possessions or money, and no way to get into your home or contact anyone. Please, someone tell me this is fucking illegal.

This is standard fare for any police department ever. It took me about 4 months to get my phone back from the NYPD, which was fun. I love it when white people are shocked by their first arrest, because it (unfortunately) means something might get done. The system sucks. Now please scare other white people about it.

Hn has no place for racists. Go somewhere else if you want to blame any racial group.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by [deleted] »

harryh wrote: post #92
ceejayoz wrote: post #86

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The military forbids its members from making political statements while in uniform. The police should probably have the same rule. If you want to campaign for/against someone, do it out of uniform.

I agree that this is probably a good rule. On the other hand, when the mayor shows up at a police funeral to give a speech while the press is there, that's clearly a political statement. It doesn't seem fair to use the police as props (implying their support) while you have a rule saying they can't make a statement in reply.

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Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by tomjen3 »

GhotiFish wrote: post #95
pcurve wrote: post #46

"My arresting officer walked me out the door and down the street past the barricade, where there were volunteers from New York Lawyers Guild waiting to provide information on legal resources, as well as donuts and coffee." That must've been a sight of relief. What a horrible experience everyone had to go through. This is nothing short of intimidation tactic.

I don't know how I feel about that. I mean on the one hand, it feels like ambulance chasing, but on the other, they're providing the exact thing everyone leaving those cells needed. Food, drink, legal advice. Do you think turf wars start with competing law-firms over that spot?

What is wrong with ambulance chasing though? If some drunk bastard smash into me I want to sue him - and that generally requires a lawyer.
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