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Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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I knew. I KNEW I should have backed up my music library. I once played a bit with their Javascript front-end and figured out how I could do it, but never got around to. I also planned on asking them to send me a copy -- I'm a paying customer, it seemed reasonable. A copy of the song list of course, not the songs themselves. Now I only have what is cached locally on my phone. I've disabled WiFi and mobile data and ope…

http://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/34goss/meta_groovesha...

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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post #178

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You can, infact, make a living with playing video games. I wonder how you would feel if I said developing is a big hobby of mine, a leisure activity, and a very rewarding one actually. You should not make money from that, get a real job, and practice your development hobby for its own sake.

Yes, I know you can. Just as you can make money making music. The important word here is "can". You are not however entitled to it. A lucky few gets paid but that's an extreme privilege you shouldn't take for granted. The difference with development is that no-one questions the business model. You code and get paid for it while music is a completely different story. Before I became a professional developer I coded fo…

Nobody is "entitled" to make a living from making music. However, everyone is entitled to say "I have created some music. In exchange for some money I will give you a copy of this music".

You say "no-one questions the business model" which is clearly false. Have you never heard of a developer being asked to work for free (or equity) on someone else's idea? IMHO that's the same as you saying musicians should be grateful to earn any money from their work.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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As a native of Gainesville, FL (where Grooveshark is based), this is really sad news. Certainly they made mistakes, but what few see is how much they contributed to the tech community here. Their CTO has personally mentored many companies in the area, and they have a presence at pretty much every tech-related event. I can't think of any other company within a 100-mile radius that can fill that role now that they're g…

First Liger, now Grooveshark. I only have a semester left but a large portion of the Gainesville I know and love has vanished pretty quickly in the last month :(

Wait, you talking about Neon Liger? They shut down?

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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post #209

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I definitely think you're in the minority. I don't remember the last time I bought an album or song, but I use streaming music services all the time. Same goes for anyone I know. Admittedly anecdotal but then again so is your assertion.

I find that interesting because I mostly use streaming services to find music I buy. Largely because I've yet to use a streaming service that handles intermittent connectivity well enough (you'd think that my commute from a densely populated London suburb, along one of the highest density commuter routes in Europe, in to Central London would have decent mobile data coverage, wouldn't you... But you'd be sadly mistake…

Largely because I've yet to use a streaming service that handles intermittent connectivity well enough

If you have an Android phone: Google Play All Access.

You can offline content to your phone as if you own the music, but you get full access to their complete library. It's pretty brilliant, IMO.

Edit: though that doesn't help you if you're looking for a radio-like service... I tend to listen to albums at a time, and discover artists through third party services (e.g., Rate Your Music) that then drive me to sample stuff on Play. So it works well for me.

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Use a legit service like spotify and discover new music. I've started listening to dozens of new artists because of it.

Spotify is very bad for music discovery. It has no random feature, the channels they offer are either hand crafted or based on popularity. The music selection excludes many smaller, and indie, labels. The search functionalities are very limited (the metadata is too low quality). I wanted to love Spotify, and I really gave it a try. I just couldn't keep using it, all it did for me was to make me angry. In the end it's…

I have personally found Spotify's Browse>Discover feature to be be useful and worthy, I've found a lot of interesting music in there.

My use case though is that I most often go on Spotify to listen to a specific album I had in mind, either I knew already or heard of it from a friend, blog, local gig, etc. But those times (20% maybe?) I feel like trying something new, I always find something good on Discover.

I wish their UI was better though. The desktop app spawns 7 SpotifyHelper processes that each eat 40mb of RAM and the whole thing feels way slow on my 10ish year laptop. The web app uses flash, and while it consumes less ram, the playback is choppy on my pc. At least the desktop app plays fine once it's started.

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Use a legit service like spotify and discover new music. I've started listening to dozens of new artists because of it.

Spotify is very bad for music discovery. It has no random feature, the channels they offer are either hand crafted or based on popularity. The music selection excludes many smaller, and indie, labels. The search functionalities are very limited (the metadata is too low quality). I wanted to love Spotify, and I really gave it a try. I just couldn't keep using it, all it did for me was to make me angry. In the end it's…

I craft a playlist of new tracks that I like and then hit 'start playlist radio' to let Spotify find me other emerging bands that sound like this.

This is a pretty solid way to discover new music, but you do need that jumping off point to enable you to say to it 'find me stuff like this'.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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Unlicensed, not illegal.

My dictionary defines illegal as “contrary to or forbidden by law”. If you're distributing material without permission it's still illegal even if you stick your fingers in your ears while loudly shouting “na na na I can't hear you!”

The content is not illegal. Illegal content would be stuff like child pornography.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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"We failed to secure licenses from rights holders for the vast amount of music on the service."

That's one way of putting it. I'm sad to see grooveshark go but always wondered how the hell it was legal every time I used it. I guess it turns out it wasn't. To be honest I'm shocked it lasted this long.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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Use a legit service like spotify and discover new music. I've started listening to dozens of new artists because of it.

Spotify is very bad for music discovery. It has no random feature, the channels they offer are either hand crafted or based on popularity. The music selection excludes many smaller, and indie, labels. The search functionalities are very limited (the metadata is too low quality). I wanted to love Spotify, and I really gave it a try. I just couldn't keep using it, all it did for me was to make me angry. In the end it's…

Do you ever select an artist or song and make a "Radio Station" from it? I find that to be a great way of finding new artists to enjoy.
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