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Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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Post by bigiain »

shock-value wrote: post #130
27182818284 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As part of the settlement agreement with the major record companies, we have agreed to cease operations immediately, wipe clean all of the record companies’ copyrighted works and hand over ownership of this website, our mobile apps and intellectual property, including our patents and copyrights. Yeah Grooveshark was really getting in the way of me paying for that album ($10) and song ($1.something) I paid for in the…

I definitely think you're in the minority. I don't remember the last time I bought an album or song, but I use streaming music services all the time. Same goes for anyone I know. Admittedly anecdotal but then again so is your assertion.

An album on Tuesday, and before that on Saturday.

(But then I'm one of the people who grew up buying music, I've got ~1,200 albums on vinyl and ~5000 on CD as a testament to my music purchasing past...)

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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Post by yason »

These things just make me more determined to stick by my music collection in mp3/ogg format, stored locally.

Until the digital rights to copy bits are globally declared we can't trust any company to provide continuous service, regardless of how well "licensed" they are. People are copying music anyway but the mafiaa make it difficult for you to create a public service or offer a public tool to do it easily, even if you're still exercising your fundamental rights to manipulate your own computer and your own storage in any way you like.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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Post by jglovier »

Syrup-tan wrote: post #17
FooNull wrote: post #13

I'm sooooo glad I was paying a yearly fee for a VIP membership... and now I can't even get a copy of my playlists. All of those obscure songs I fell in love with are gone. I wonder if the information they turned over included my credit card billing data... Is it time to build a personal, private, self-hosted, open-source grooveshark clone?

I hope playlist data wasn't part of the settlement, and that we will be able to recover it. It would be detrimental to the artists to have some of their fans not be able to find them again, right? Perhaps record companies care less about the artists which are forgettable in the first place.

My best guess is that the playlist data (and any other relevant user data) is probably the reason the legal action even happened. What's honesty more valuable to whichever company is primarily responsible for the suit: the profits said company stands to gain now that Grooveshark is out of the way, or the behavioral user data of 10 years of internet music streaming on a front-runner service? My bet is on the later.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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Post by Oriyta »

dublinben wrote: post #23
FooNull wrote: post #13

I'm sooooo glad I was paying a yearly fee for a VIP membership... and now I can't even get a copy of my playlists. All of those obscure songs I fell in love with are gone. I wonder if the information they turned over included my credit card billing data... Is it time to build a personal, private, self-hosted, open-source grooveshark clone?

You can already run your own streaming service with Subsonic today. What are you waiting for?

I moved personally to Ampache http://ampache.org which I found lighter and smoother than Subsonic, and it is working with Subsonic clients.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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Post by lucb1e »

I knew. I KNEW I should have backed up my music library. I once played a bit with their Javascript front-end and figured out how I could do it, but never got around to. I also planned on asking them to send me a copy -- I'm a paying customer, it seemed reasonable. A copy of the song list of course, not the songs themselves.

Now I only have what is cached locally on my phone. I've disabled WiFi and mobile data and opened the Grooveshark app: phew, it's still there (no remote wipe). I remember less than three days ago my subscription was renewed. The app locally checks the date, so I have a small month to get my data out of there.

One tiny bit of luck: I already figured out how to decrypt the locally stored songs back into mp3s. That's at least something... if I can dig up the script again.

Anyone ideas on how to get the full list back easily? Is there a data archive I can download for my "VIP" account?

Edit: reddit helps out! See: https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/34goss/meta_groovesh...

There is GoodForOneCare's comment with some Javascript (which didn't work for me, but gave me some hints) and there is http://groovebackup.com which retrieved a few playlists for me. That's something at least, whew.

Now let's see about extracting my phone's data...

Edit2: found my decryption script but it doesn't contain their encryption key. Guess I'll have to re-crack it, this time without Wireshark to capture the decrypted data. It's a simple substitution cipher though, shouldn't be too hard.

Edit3: pulling data from my phone, from the root of my sdcard (/dev/block/mmcblk0p16), the files are located in:

    /app/com.grooveshark* for the APK
    /data/com.grooveshark.android.v1 for stuff
    /media/0/Android/data/com.grooveshark.android.v1 for cache and offline files

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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Post by ars »

lucb1e wrote: post #175

I knew. I KNEW I should have backed up my music library. I once played a bit with their Javascript front-end and figured out how I could do it, but never got around to. I also planned on asking them to send me a copy -- I'm a paying customer, it seemed reasonable. A copy of the song list of course, not the songs themselves. Now I only have what is cached locally on my phone. I've disabled WiFi and mobile data and ope…

Check here: http://groovebackup.com/

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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Post by philtar »

bigiain wrote: post #171
shock-value wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I definitely think you're in the minority. I don't remember the last time I bought an album or song, but I use streaming music services all the time. Same goes for anyone I know. Admittedly anecdotal but then again so is your assertion.

An album on Tuesday, and before that on Saturday. (But then I'm one of the people who grew up buying music, I've got ~1,200 albums on vinyl and ~5000 on CD as a testament to my music purchasing past...)

Yeah but your kind are going extinct.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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Post by cotix »

Kiro wrote: post #160
Kiro wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You make music because it's fun. If you're doing it for the money you're doing it wrong. If I could make even a single dime on my music it would be a privilege but I'm happy as it is.

Getting downvoted but my opinion stands: being a musician is not a job and you can't expect to get paid for it. It would be like expecting to get paid for playing video games. Making music is a leisure activity and a very rewarding one. Thinking you should make a living on it is just greedy. Get a normal job and create music for its own sake.

You can, infact, make a living with playing video games. I wonder how you would feel if I said developing is a big hobby of mine, a leisure activity, and a very rewarding one actually. You should not make money from that, get a real job, and practice your development hobby for its own sake.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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Post by colordrops »

13 wrote: post #29
hurin wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could do some anonymous block-chain ledger type-service, really doubt that it would win over simply bit-torrent though, and ultimately I'm kind of biased since I really would prefer that real creators get to exercise their rights.

What is this blind obsession with "THIS NEEDS A BLOCKCHAIN!!!!!!!"? There's nothing, absolutely nothing, in a system of storing playlists which needs decentralized canonical ordering. A blockchain is literally one of the most inefficient ways of storing data imaginable, and serves no purpose here other than a buzz word.

> There's nothing, absolutely nothing

No, there is something. You could use the blockchain as a decentralized torrent tracker.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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Post by xrjn »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #61
FooNull wrote: post #13

I'm sooooo glad I was paying a yearly fee for a VIP membership... and now I can't even get a copy of my playlists. All of those obscure songs I fell in love with are gone. I wonder if the information they turned over included my credit card billing data... Is it time to build a personal, private, self-hosted, open-source grooveshark clone?

> Is it time to build a personal, private, self-hosted, open-source grooveshark clone? Popcorn Time [1] meets Spotify? [1] https://popcorntime.io/

There used to be HipHop [0], a simple app that scraped mp3 sites and streamed music from them. Although it was fully functional (and still appears to work on my side), there is no music discovery, only search - which is a limiting factor for this app. Previous discussion on hn [1].

[0] https://github.com/hiphopapp/hiphop [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7850613

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