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Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by gbl08ma »

robwilliams wrote: post #513
DatBear wrote: post #341

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On my machine with no files open it's at ~80-85MB RAM, VS2012 is at 500MB with nothing open. Not sure why 200MB is of any consequence unless you're in a third world country. 8GB of RAM is ~$50.

Code is only using 20MB on my Win8 box.

This is interesting. I only tested it on Linux, just opened it again and it's definitely using over 150 MB of RAM, across five threads. This may mean it uses more memory on Linux than on Windows. 20 MB looks definitely lightweight, and it may be an interesting alternative to Sublime and Notepad++ which is what I use on Windows.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by StillBored »

ghshephard wrote: post #464
notsony wrote: post #378

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The Internet democratized the entire software industry by allowing developers to sell direct to customers. You would no longer have to beg CompUSA to carry your boxed software in store. Before the rise of the App Stores, you could use Kagi or eSellerate to sell your software for 8-12%, or you could use PayPal, WorldPay, 2Checkout for 2-4%. Things are even cheaper and easier now with Braintree, Stripe, etc. Apple char…

Apple could not care less about that $99 fee. It is 100% immaterial to them beyond the function that it is attempting to server - act as a minimum bar of entry to the developer program.

The $99 isn't the barrier, owning a recent mac decent enough to develop on is the real barrier.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by alexggordon »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #295

Fun thing that nobody seems to mention is that a lot of "Visual Studio Code" is actually based on opensource. It's a atom shell app using omnisharp as server... Here some relative links where it's based upon: https://atom.io/ https://github.com/atom/electron http://www.omnisharp.net/ I think it's funny that MS uses 3rd party opensource for building a editor that supports Visual Basic (and other languages of course)..…

Given Microsofts recent endeavors, I also have very little doubts that the editor will be open sourced once it's released. I think keeping something closed source in beta like this is a good way to force Devs to objectively evaluate the product, as opposed to having immediate presumptions purely based on it's technologies.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by PopsiclePete »

MCRed wrote: post #349
ryanmarsh wrote: post #285

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Some HN'ers may not recall Microsoft's "sleeping giant awakes" moment with the Internet in the 90's. Speaking of tidal waves, hang on to your surfboards, it's going to be big and fast. http://www.lettersofnote.com/2011/07/internet-tidal-wave.htm...

It is now just a month shy of 20 years since that letter was written. And what did Microsoft do? They bought a browser and gave it away for free, cutting off Netscape at the knees, til the company folded and become the Mozilla Foundation. They poured billions and billions of dollars into online initiatives from the Microsoft Network to Bing, including buying dozens and dozens of companies. None of those were big succ…

.NET is a renamed MFC? I stopped reading afterwards. You are completely clueless about .NET, aren't you? Do you think that Java and the JVM are just "rebranded" Delphi as well?

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by serve_yay »

notsony wrote: post #290
ryanmarsh wrote: post #285

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Some HN'ers may not recall Microsoft's "sleeping giant awakes" moment with the Internet in the 90's. Speaking of tidal waves, hang on to your surfboards, it's going to be big and fast. http://www.lettersofnote.com/2011/07/internet-tidal-wave.htm...

Tim Cook's too busy with Jonathan Ive and Angela Ahrendts, turning Apple into a luxury goods company, to even know what just hit him. Slowly but surely the best developers are going to leave the Mac platform leaving only consulting body-shops and corporates on iOS. Developing for the Mac and iOS is miserable. It wasn't always that way, but it is now. Developers* are sick of proprietary stacks, from the language (Swif…

Oh, yeah. Everyone knows Apple is doomed.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by serve_yay »

tw04 wrote: post #366
kaolinite wrote: post #302

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Do you have anything to back that up? Personally, I feel developing for Apple platforms has never been better. Companies are still, for the most part, launching on iOS first and I don't know who the developers you're talking about are, but there are a hell of a lot of great developers still in the platform: Panic, OmniGroup, etc. As for your comment on the 30% fee, that's industry standard and few serious developers…

Panic? You mean the company that pulled Coda 2.5 out of the app store because it was too difficult to sandbox? Oh, the irony.

And hell, they've even had worse than that. They went through a pretty horrible thing with Apple shortly after iOS 8 came out, over an extension they made.

The last 12 months have been pretty horrible for them in terms of their relations with Apple. Sure they're toughing it out because it's not like they have other revenue sources, but those experiences have jolted them into finally considering moving beyond being just a Mac/iOS shop. So they're not a very good example of "all is well in Apple developer land".

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by robwilliams »

gbl08ma wrote: post #521
robwilliams wrote: post #513

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Code is only using 20MB on my Win8 box.

This is interesting. I only tested it on Linux, just opened it again and it's definitely using over 150 MB of RAM, across five threads. This may mean it uses more memory on Linux than on Windows. 20 MB looks definitely lightweight, and it may be an interesting alternative to Sublime and Notepad++ which is what I use on Windows.

After opening a few files it's up to 100-150MB, so not as lightweight as I originally thought. That doesn't affect its responsiveness, though, and I have plenty of free memory.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by WorldWideWayne »

dijit wrote: post #227
marssaxman wrote: post #162

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except for the part where it's written in Javascript and is thus a bloated memory hog, yes.

worth it... this is a specialist application, I dont mind developers having another chunk of memory for a better development environment.

As a developer I will mind if it's not fast though, or if it does not behave like other native apps. The fact that it uses more memory is not a fact that stands alone either. The reason it uses more memory is because it has to do more. Because it has to do more, it's always going to be slower.

So far on Fedora 21, VSCode is a slow and buggy experience. Atom was never as good as any of the native dev tools that I've used IMO. As a matter of fact, I can't think of one application developed with web tech that performs as well as it's native counterpart.

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