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Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

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Re: Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

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Looks like it supports both Chrome and FireFox extensions - http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/29/8515771/microsofts-edge-br...

In my humble opinion as an extension developer this is madness. Of course still probably better than rolling out their own. They should stick to a single stack.

Why?

Re: Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

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Hmm, I don't like this name, it's still trying to be something special. I surmised from the chatter until now that Edge would be called "Internet", "My Internet", or "Browse" or some other non-program entity thing. And quite frankly, that made me shiver a bit for Firefox and (less so) for Chrome. See, what if Microsoft plain-wrapped their browser, made it seamless and ubiquitous? Perhaps this is what they were envisi…

> we can't continue Fisher Price'ing up our user experiences

I wouldn't bet on that.

Re: Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

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Hmm, I don't like this name, it's still trying to be something special. I surmised from the chatter until now that Edge would be called "Internet", "My Internet", or "Browse" or some other non-program entity thing. And quite frankly, that made me shiver a bit for Firefox and (less so) for Chrome. See, what if Microsoft plain-wrapped their browser, made it seamless and ubiquitous? Perhaps this is what they were envisi…

Just as a note in response to the suggestion the browser not have a name to make it harder to hate, most of the android default browsers for different phones have no distinguishable names yet you can still refer to them as the default browser if you wish to degrade them. People will have a name to call it if they wish to refer to it.

Re: Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

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Yet another engine to support. They are creating their own called EdgeHTML

It's replacing Trident for everyone except companies that use internal software designed for IE6, and you can pretty well ignore those users. Same number of engines to support as before.

That's really not how browser support works ... if your customers are paying money, you don't trust a damn thing and you verify stuff on all browsers with any appreciable market share. jastanton is entirely correct.

Re: Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

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In my humble opinion as an extension developer this is madness. Of course still probably better than rolling out their own. They should stick to a single stack.

Why?

Many reasons. Leaky abstractions, possible slight incompatibilities/quirks due to having to maintain two extension layers at once. Generally development times split between two completely different environments.

Re: Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

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Looks like it supports both Chrome and FireFox extensions - http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/29/8515771/microsofts-edge-br...

If they can make this work seamlessly, its a great way to steal users from both the Chrome and Firefox camps. Single-browser extensions are in effect "bricks" for building a walled garden around a browser.

So I'm happy if MS is able to break down those walls and take us more toward an open browser standard, as yefim commented.

Re: Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

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IE11 trident rendering engine was already renamed to "Edge", press F12 check it out (then see in the bottom bar -> top right). The step from IE11 to IE12 aka Edge from the render engine is not as huge an outside might think (reading only the PR) - it's still a great step forward so don't get me wrong. The GUI window app has been completely scrapped in favor of a WinRuntime app "Edge" instead of the old iexplore.exe t…

Partially correct. EdgeHTML was in IE11, but wasn't a renamed MSHTML (check your system32, you'll see both DLLs in Win10). It's a departure from MSHTML that's been seriously changed, lots of cruft removed and a lot of interop added. Fun anecdote - last week someone at Steam wrote one of the sale pages using entirely -webkit- prefixes. It showed up blank in Forefox, but rendered fine in Spartan and Chrome.

I don't find the fact a brand new browser already supports legacy 'webkit-' prefixes a fun fact...

Re: Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

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Looks like it supports both Chrome and FireFox extensions - http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/29/8515771/microsofts-edge-br...

Wow...this kind of levels the playing field. A big reason I stayed away from IE was because of the extensions. If people's favourite extensions start working on Edge, then I'm sure many will give it a serious go.

Edge will have to prove itself as a browser first. IE is inferior to all the others, currently. Edge, as "Spartan", has shown positive results in Microsoft's "lab tests" but they showed same results in the past so viewing such "reports" should be taken with a grain of salt.

Till then, stick with Firefox or Chrome.

Re: Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

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Yet another engine to support. They are creating their own called EdgeHTML

It's replacing Trident for everyone except companies that use internal software designed for IE6, and you can pretty well ignore those users. Same number of engines to support as before.

You underestimate people's ability to hold on to old software.
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