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Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

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Re: Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

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Yet another engine to support. They are creating their own called EdgeHTML

It's replacing Trident for everyone except companies that use internal software designed for IE6, and you can pretty well ignore those users.

Same number of engines to support as before.

Re: Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

#12

Internet Explorer is generally regarded as a reason we can't have nice things, so this is a huge step in the right direction for Windows users.

IE11 trident rendering engine was already renamed to "Edge", press F12 check it out (then see in the bottom bar -> top right). The step from IE11 to IE12 aka Edge from the render engine is not as huge an outside might think (reading only the PR) - it's still a great step forward so don't get me wrong. The GUI window app has been completely scrapped in favor of a WinRuntime app "Edge" instead of the old iexplore.exe that code can be traced back to at least Internet Explorer 3 (and maybe even IE 1).

Re: Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

#13

Internet Explorer is generally regarded as a reason we can't have nice things, so this is a huge step in the right direction for Windows users.

It's not really that big of a change. It's a new UI, and a fork of Trident with some old stuff removed. But web developers who complain about Microsoft not instantly implementing everything Google comes up with will continue to complain, despite it having pretty good standards support and being perfectly modern.

Re: Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

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Looks like it supports both Chrome and FireFox extensions - http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/29/8515771/microsofts-edge-br...

In my humble opinion as an extension developer this is madness. Of course still probably better than rolling out their own.

They should stick to a single stack.

Re: Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

#15

Internet Explorer is generally regarded as a reason we can't have nice things, so this is a huge step in the right direction for Windows users.

It's not really that big of a change. It's a new UI, and a fork of Trident with some old stuff removed. But web developers who complain about Microsoft not instantly implementing everything Google comes up with will continue to complain, despite it having pretty good standards support and being perfectly modern.

Have you seen the compatibility table for ES6 [1]? They did not just remove old stuff they currently leading when it comes to JavaScript.

[1] https://kangax.github.io/compat-table/es6/

Re: Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not really that big of a change. It's a new UI, and a fork of Trident with some old stuff removed. But web developers who complain about Microsoft not instantly implementing everything Google comes up with will continue to complain, despite it having pretty good standards support and being perfectly modern.

Have you seen the compatibility table for ES6 [1]? They did not just remove old stuff they currently leading when it comes to JavaScript. [1] https://kangax.github.io/compat-table/es6/

Sure, I am aware IE11/Edge is perfectly modern. I've been a fan for a while now: about three years ago, I remember that IE9 had far better 2D canvas acceleration than Chrome or Firefox (this may even still be the case).

However, I constantly see people complaining online about IE. What can I do.

Re: Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

#17
This looks like a excellent browser. It has a sleak interface and from all the news I hear it may support some very powerful web technologies and will finally be rapid release.

Still, it's a shame that it's still very much close source and Windows only.

"...rather than just open-sourcing EdgeHTML and letting anyone contribute, they’re approving individual “major web entities” in a piecemeal fashion. Microsoft is twisting itself into pretzels to get some of the benefits of being open-source without actually going open-source." - Chris Hoffman | PCWorld

Re: Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

#18
Hmm, I don't like this name, it's still trying to be something special.

I surmised from the chatter until now that Edge would be called "Internet", "My Internet", or "Browse" or some other non-program entity thing. And quite frankly, that made me shiver a bit for Firefox and (less so) for Chrome.

See, what if Microsoft plain-wrapped their browser, made it seamless and ubiquitous? Perhaps this is what they were envisioning with the original Active Desktop style integration? (And no, I'm not talking about Metro tiles, blurgh.) A successful plain-wrapped browser is like an unstoppable ideology for me, there's no name to put to the enemy. Internet Explorer could be demonized - it had a marketdroid-crafted icon, it had a NAME.

I honestly can't conceive of what such a plain-wrapped browser experience would look because I like having multiple browser windows and I like tabbed browser windows. It does need to work something like an application, at least for me. For that matter, we can't continue Fisher Price'ing up our user experiences, apps like browsers need to be productivity focused and not cater to the 3 year olds and other neophytes. That Metro Internet Explorer browser experience in Windows 8 was a joke. Take up way WAY less screen real estate with the browser chrome, cut it out with hip, annoying animations, show me my information and be quick about it.

I feel the PRODUCT NAME needs to go - Edge needs to fade away and just be there in the background as a vaguely recognizable, essential, but rather bland and uninteresting part of the overall computing experience. If Edge did fade into the background and become this trusty thing with its own signature user experience and pleasant signature flourishes or painting style or whatever, then it would more easily make the jump to new devices, autos, televisions, billboards, etc. The exact same bland, trusty experience would be expected everywhere.

I feel egos probably drove this naming decision. Oh well, already stumbling out the gate; a visionary needs to wrest control. Hopefully not another opportunity for meaningful change squandered.

Re: Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

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post #3

I wonder if they went with Edge so they could keep the 'e' icon? I could only imagine the confusion less computer-savy customers would have if they could no longer find the 'e' icon to access the internet.

My guess is that the icon is going to be something like a blue capital-e. Just similar enough to the familiar logo that end-users will take to it immediately, while different enough that tech staff will be able to tell the difference.

Re: Microsoft’s New Browser Will Be Called Microsoft Edge

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post #12

Internet Explorer is generally regarded as a reason we can't have nice things, so this is a huge step in the right direction for Windows users.

IE11 trident rendering engine was already renamed to "Edge", press F12 check it out (then see in the bottom bar -> top right). The step from IE11 to IE12 aka Edge from the render engine is not as huge an outside might think (reading only the PR) - it's still a great step forward so don't get me wrong. The GUI window app has been completely scrapped in favor of a WinRuntime app "Edge" instead of the old iexplore.exe t…

Partially correct. EdgeHTML was in IE11, but wasn't a renamed MSHTML (check your system32, you'll see both DLLs in Win10). It's a departure from MSHTML that's been seriously changed, lots of cruft removed and a lot of interop added.

Fun anecdote - last week someone at Steam wrote one of the sale pages using entirely -webkit- prefixes. It showed up blank in Forefox, but rendered fine in Spartan and Chrome.

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