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This man just claimed a new European nation. 160,000 people want to live there

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Re: This man just claimed a new European nation. 160,000 people want to live there

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Post by k__ »

tinco wrote: post #47

This country is also on the verge of having its first war. The Liberland flag has already been removed by another micro-nation that claims to have laid claim on the land just over a month earlier: http://www.paraduin.nl/?p=173 Unfortunately, the Paraduin people seem a bit nutty to me. An excerpt from their constitution, which is in Dutch: "Paraduin is een monarchie. De titel van de monarch is prins(es), voluit Prins(…

Something like this happend to this oilrig land "sealand".

People think it's easy to found your own country. Just find unclaimed space and be done with it.

But there are many rich people out in the world who would hire armies to kill for such a spot.

Re: This man just claimed a new European nation. 160,000 people want to live there

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Post by geographomics »

samastur wrote: post #28
mkesper wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe soon a new part of Russia? Latest events around Ukraine have really made that thinkable.

Russia? It's not even close to any of Russia's borders.

True, but neither is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Oblast

Re: This man just claimed a new European nation. 160,000 people want to live there

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Post by tim333 »

> 160,000 people want to live there

I just put my name down. It's a laugh. I'd probably be willing to fork over $30 for a passport. I don't actually want to live there. I suspect many of the 160,000 are similar.

On a more serious note I could see an argument for setting up a new country that was open to all comers a bit like the US used to be when the "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.." thing was happening. The US and EU could maybe buy the land off some hard up African country. You could govern it a bit like Singapore.

Re: This man just claimed a new European nation. 160,000 people want to live there

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Post by tinco »

k__ wrote: post #51
tinco wrote: post #47

This country is also on the verge of having its first war. The Liberland flag has already been removed by another micro-nation that claims to have laid claim on the land just over a month earlier: http://www.paraduin.nl/?p=173 Unfortunately, the Paraduin people seem a bit nutty to me. An excerpt from their constitution, which is in Dutch: "Paraduin is een monarchie. De titel van de monarch is prins(es), voluit Prins(…

Something like this happend to this oilrig land "sealand". People think it's easy to found your own country. Just find unclaimed space and be done with it. But there are many rich people out in the world who would hire armies to kill for such a spot.

That's a very good point. Obviously the only way any country can be bootstrapped is with military power. If Liberland is serious they should immediately engage Paraduin with a show of force. Secondly, I think the best course of action would be to secure funding for buying a protectorate like situation with either Croatia or Serbia. Though I don't know what the political consequences of such a situation would be.

Imagine if from those 160.000 signups they could get 5.000 people to pay $1000 in taxes per year, that could fund a Serbian police/military officer and a small office. Just his presence and his commitment to engage in violent conflict with aggressors could deter any other party. (Killing him would be an act-of-war or at least a criminal act against his country)

Re: This man just claimed a new European nation. 160,000 people want to live there

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Post by gambiter »

ColinWright wrote: post #2

There have been several submissions about this recently. Here are a few: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9383560 Liberland (liberland.org) [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9384107 Liberland (wikipedia.org) [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9385492 A New State Has Been Declared - Liberland (between border of Croatia and Serbia) (liberland.org) [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9388699 New st…

Why on every aggregator does there have to be 'that guy' who thinks it's somehow his job to dig up duplicate posts? Do you comment on various news sites whenever they post an article that the NYTimes covered? It's just... silly.

This is the first time I've seen news about this particular 'country', and I'm glad I saw it this time because it is interesting.

Duplicates FTW!

Re: This man just claimed a new European nation. 160,000 people want to live there

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Post by arihant »

Sidenote: This page has unbearable amounts of JS. It is unscrollable on latest generation Chromebook, a device explicitly built to browse the Web. There is a limit to how much JS one should use; if your website requires a pro gaming machine to be readable, you probably crossed that limit.

Re: This man just claimed a new European nation. 160,000 people want to live there

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Post by lstamour »

arihant wrote: post #57

Sidenote: This page has unbearable amounts of JS. It is unscrollable on latest generation Chromebook, a device explicitly built to browse the Web. There is a limit to how much JS one should use; if your website requires a pro gaming machine to be readable, you probably crossed that limit.

Worked fine on my iPhone? But I agree...

Re: This man just claimed a new European nation. 160,000 people want to live there

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Post by blacknwhite »

arihant wrote: post #57

Sidenote: This page has unbearable amounts of JS. It is unscrollable on latest generation Chromebook, a device explicitly built to browse the Web. There is a limit to how much JS one should use; if your website requires a pro gaming machine to be readable, you probably crossed that limit.

terrible site...google/disqus polluted

Re: This man just claimed a new European nation. 160,000 people want to live there

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Post by samastur »

geographomics wrote: post #52
samastur wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Russia? It's not even close to any of Russia's borders.

True, but neither is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Oblast

Good point :)

But in Kaliningrad's case it used to be attached just fine to the rest of Soviet Union from which Russia "inherited" it.

No part of former Yugoslavia was ever close to bordering Russia. At least not yet :P

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