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1.5 Million Missing Black Men

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Re: 1.5 Million Missing Black Men

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tomjen3 wrote: post #82
Someone1234 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your offense is of no concern to me. The stats back up that people prefer to date within their own race when they can. Ultimately I am just arguing that people's choice is important to the whole topic, if black women would prefer to date black men, pointing out that they could date white or asian men won't help the situation.

Actually you are wrong in this specific case. Okcupid has the data ( http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-race-affects-whether-... ) which shows that black women are more likely to reply to men now of her own race (and white men are almost at the top).

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Re: 1.5 Million Missing Black Men

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Post by omonra »

learc83 wrote: post #91
omonra wrote: post #46

Sorry to be the voice of Bill Cosby but my read of this is that black men are killing each other and then going to prison for it (drug charges are responsible for maybe 20% of people in prison - ie stats would still be largely same without the drug war). And somehow that's everybody else's fault?

A huge number of people are in jail for commiting violent crimes that while not labled "drug related", are still related to the war on drugs. Drug prohibition funds gangs and cartels, which directly leads to a host of other crimes. If you ended the war on drugs, it's likely that the prison population would drop by much more than 20%.

I'm not sure that's a given. Ie once drug trade loses its profitability, I expect the individuals involved in it to move to something else (but hardly to other poorly paid jobs requiring commensurate levels of education).

Ie - did ending of prohibition bring the end of the organized crime?

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Post by happyscrappy »

steamy wrote: post #74
Someone1234 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> increasingly belligerent I'd argue that China's belligerence is lower now than it has been. They've moved from a very communist that strongly distrusted and arguably even hated the West, to a semi-capitalist one who mostly just wants to compete with the West (and makes oodles of $$$ selling to us). The US has been drum-beating against China a lot recently, but frankly that seems more about the US losing in the "tra…

The #1 belligerent nation on Earth now is uncontestedly the USA and this is not because Americans are belligerent and aggressive by nature but because it happens that the globalists and the Elite made that country their HQ conducting their business operations out of it.

The #1 belligerent nation on Earth's power is unassailable while buttressed by Europe, Japan, Australia, Canada, South Korea and others, no illuminati necessary.

Re: 1.5 Million Missing Black Men

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Post by omonra »

unprepare wrote: post #94
omonra wrote: post #46

Sorry to be the voice of Bill Cosby but my read of this is that black men are killing each other and then going to prison for it (drug charges are responsible for maybe 20% of people in prison - ie stats would still be largely same without the drug war). And somehow that's everybody else's fault?

Do you have a source for your 20% figure?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9410440

Re: 1.5 Million Missing Black Men

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Post by omonra »

veritas20 wrote: post #75
omonra wrote: post #46

Sorry to be the voice of Bill Cosby but my read of this is that black men are killing each other and then going to prison for it (drug charges are responsible for maybe 20% of people in prison - ie stats would still be largely same without the drug war). And somehow that's everybody else's fault?

Where did you get these stats? Your statement does not seem to acknowledge that there is an interdependence between violence/homicide and illegal drug trade.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9410440

Re: 1.5 Million Missing Black Men

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Post by Balgair »

ck2 wrote: post #105

Want some interesting perspective - in 1968 Jim Crow laws were still in effect (aka separate but "equal") until they were finally made illegal. But you can be positive that just making it illegal in 1968 didn't end the practice, it most certainly went on into the 70s That's only a couple of generations ago. It's crazy that some people don't understand why it take so long to recover from hundreds of years of that, peo…

To be clear, you are talking about the post-civil war period to the civil rights act period as when blacks in most of the USA were second class, correct? Because, before that, blacks were not second class citizens in any way, they were property in many areas.

Re: 1.5 Million Missing Black Men

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Post by woah »

roymurdock wrote: post #98
dmix wrote: post #13

> The black women left behind find that potential partners of the same race are scarce, while men, who face an abundant supply of potential mates, don’t need to compete as hard to find one. As a result, Mr. Charles said, “men seem less likely to commit to romantic relationships, or to work hard to maintain them.” Interesting, I never thought about this side-effect of mass incarceration. Another aggravating factor in…

In my experience, having a stable girlfriend for the past 3 years has been like looking in a mirror every month or so. She calls me out on things that I do habitually or without thinking, usually because they are selfish and hurt her or our relationship in some way. These are habits or personality traits that my close friends and family wouldn't be aware of, but that my girlfriend has exclusive access to as the one w…

Your comment went a bit off topic, but I'm guessing you are a developer and will be entering into a tech economy powered by the QE you find so evil.

Re: 1.5 Million Missing Black Men

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

DanBC wrote: post #128

The numbers are boggling. I don't understand how Americans tolerate such a blatantly racist prison system. http://www.naacp.org/pages/criminal-justice-fact-sheet

Trouble is, it got that way one arrest at a time. Each one may seem defensible in isolation. Its only by looking at the statistics that the problem leaps out at you.

So you noticed, and wrote a blog entry. What actionable plan can we suggest? Or will we just make more blog entries. I honestly don't have any answer.

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