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The hidden FM radio in your pocket and why you can't use it

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Re: The hidden FM radio in your pocket and why you can't use it

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I'm very surprised that many seem to simply accept the rhetoric of this story and its talking points.

Exactly why are these chips being included and disabled, as opposed to not including them in the first place? No one seems to be questioning this part.

Can anyone shed light on this? What is the back story here?

Re: The hidden FM radio in your pocket and why you can't use it

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post #51

While half-baked conspiracy theories are fun, a good journalist would've consulted a few more sources to get to the bottom of this story. FM radio requires a large antenna. It will not work without one. The 5th generation iPod nano (2009) was the first iPod with an (enabled) FM radio. We used the headphone wire as the antenna. It worked well enough. While there was a tiny speaker in those iPods, headphones were the o…

> People listen to the built-in speaker, and they listen over bluetooth and WiFi.

[citation needed]

All the smartphones I'm aware of on the market still include a headphone jack.

Hell, the new Macbook with the USB-C connector has two plugs. A USB-C connector, and an audio jack.

Re: The hidden FM radio in your pocket and why you can't use it

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And selling hardware that's been crippled in some way always makes people uncomfortable. Whether it's an FM tuner being turned off, tethering being blocked, CPU features turned off, or whatever, manufacturing a working product and then selling it in a less-working state is worrisome and shouldn't be automatically considered acceptable. It's a strong indicator of a possible market failure and a sure sign that the cons…

The hardware isn't crippled; you can root your phone and install an FM Radio app yourself.

In some jurisdictions you can sometimes root your phone, if someone has put the effort into defeating the technical obstacles put in place to enforce the crippling. Other phones include a tuner that is disabled through hardware means.

Re: The hidden FM radio in your pocket and why you can't use it

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post #51

While half-baked conspiracy theories are fun, a good journalist would've consulted a few more sources to get to the bottom of this story. FM radio requires a large antenna. It will not work without one. The 5th generation iPod nano (2009) was the first iPod with an (enabled) FM radio. We used the headphone wire as the antenna. It worked well enough. While there was a tiny speaker in those iPods, headphones were the o…

Would it not be reasonable to recommend plugging in headphones before using the FM radio? People who really want radio for whatever reason can do it.

Re: The hidden FM radio in your pocket and why you can't use it

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post #51

While half-baked conspiracy theories are fun, a good journalist would've consulted a few more sources to get to the bottom of this story. FM radio requires a large antenna. It will not work without one. The 5th generation iPod nano (2009) was the first iPod with an (enabled) FM radio. We used the headphone wire as the antenna. It worked well enough. While there was a tiny speaker in those iPods, headphones were the o…

Every phone supports headphones. Headphones are not a horrible experience.

Re: The hidden FM radio in your pocket and why you can't use it

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post #51

While half-baked conspiracy theories are fun, a good journalist would've consulted a few more sources to get to the bottom of this story. FM radio requires a large antenna. It will not work without one. The 5th generation iPod nano (2009) was the first iPod with an (enabled) FM radio. We used the headphone wire as the antenna. It worked well enough. While there was a tiny speaker in those iPods, headphones were the o…

As a point of reference, my Motorola smartphones all have an FM radio app that refuses to run if wired headphones are not connected- and if you ever disconnect them, the app stops playing music and throws an error. You can even listen over a bluetooth accessory- so long as you have headphones connected...

http://i.imgur.com/TMCyQwI.png

Re: The hidden FM radio in your pocket and why you can't use it

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post #51

While half-baked conspiracy theories are fun, a good journalist would've consulted a few more sources to get to the bottom of this story. FM radio requires a large antenna. It will not work without one. The 5th generation iPod nano (2009) was the first iPod with an (enabled) FM radio. We used the headphone wire as the antenna. It worked well enough. While there was a tiny speaker in those iPods, headphones were the o…

I dont see why we cant include a software feature to prompt the user for headphones and still allow sound to the loudspeaker.

Re: The hidden FM radio in your pocket and why you can't use it

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post #51

While half-baked conspiracy theories are fun, a good journalist would've consulted a few more sources to get to the bottom of this story. FM radio requires a large antenna. It will not work without one. The 5th generation iPod nano (2009) was the first iPod with an (enabled) FM radio. We used the headphone wire as the antenna. It worked well enough. While there was a tiny speaker in those iPods, headphones were the o…

> People listen to the built-in speaker, and they listen over bluetooth and WiFi. [citation needed] All the smartphones I'm aware of on the market still include a headphone jack. Hell, the new Macbook with the USB-C connector has two plugs. A USB-C connector, and an audio jack.

Anecdote of size one, but while I do use the headphone jack, Bluetooth is quickly taking over when it comes to listening to audio. Bluetooth head unit in my car, Bluetooth earbuds, Bluetooth mini-speaker, Bluetooth to my hifi rig...

Re: The hidden FM radio in your pocket and why you can't use it

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post #64
post #51

While half-baked conspiracy theories are fun, a good journalist would've consulted a few more sources to get to the bottom of this story. FM radio requires a large antenna. It will not work without one. The 5th generation iPod nano (2009) was the first iPod with an (enabled) FM radio. We used the headphone wire as the antenna. It worked well enough. While there was a tiny speaker in those iPods, headphones were the o…

Would it not be reasonable to recommend plugging in headphones before using the FM radio? People who really want radio for whatever reason can do it.

That is exactly what happens on my phone which has an fm radio app: http://imgur.com/0OITkLe.png
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