Isn't this just same old same old? We have a fantastic independent coffee shop at the end of our road. When a major coffee chain opened a few doors down, I asked him if he was worried. His reply: "No. The kind of people that drink coffee in Starbucks don't pay for coffee in independent coffee shops.". It's the same here. Beats' target market is not people that love good quality headphones, but people that want fashio…
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#32Sennheiser HD 280 Pros - best headphones for under US$100. Balanced sound, good isolation, responsive and clean, comfortable for long sessions. http://en-us.sennheiser.com/professional-dj-headphones-noise... http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-280-Pro-Headphones/dp/B0... I just don't understand purchasing headphones as a fashion statement. I read it as "I want you to know I like popular brands over high quality and m…
It's dumb, but it is what it is, and people wrap an awful lot of their identity up in their chosen tribe rather than just being themselves.
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#33I lost a lot of respect for Apple when they bought them. Beats are what a lot of Apple haters used to accuse them of being, overpriced junk that caters to gullible fashion victims. I won't be switching to their new music service.
It was once fashionable to wear them, now its fashionable to hate them. Truth is, they have gotten better - a lot.
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#34Whilst I dislike Beats, I admire them a lot. They entered a market where every company was focusing on sound quality first, aesthetics second and they came in with a new take: headphones should look good (I actually dislike the style but a lot of young people seem to love it), and should have a lot of bass to make certain types of music - music listened to by young people - sound good (again, I dislike this but many…
Can I feel old now? Where's my lawn?
> People aren't buying the headphones for the sound quality, they're buying it for everything else.
I find this worrying, really. Are we so desperate to consume that we're willing to buy shit just for sake of buying?
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#35Sennheiser HD 280 Pros - best headphones for under US$100. Balanced sound, good isolation, responsive and clean, comfortable for long sessions. http://en-us.sennheiser.com/professional-dj-headphones-noise... http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-280-Pro-Headphones/dp/B0... I just don't understand purchasing headphones as a fashion statement. I read it as "I want you to know I like popular brands over high quality and m…
And for the cost of Beats I know I could spend c.£170 and get Sennheiser HD25s which are the best headphones I've ever used and I believe a lot of other people agree. This is nearly half the price of some Beats models.
But thats the thing, there is no best headphone.
Best for DJs Best for producers Best for listening Best comfort when wearing for 8 hours a day Best for travelling with Best for bass Best neutral sound
Re: How Beats by Dre played you like a fool
#36Sennheiser HD 280 Pros - best headphones for under US$100. Balanced sound, good isolation, responsive and clean, comfortable for long sessions. http://en-us.sennheiser.com/professional-dj-headphones-noise... http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-280-Pro-Headphones/dp/B0... I just don't understand purchasing headphones as a fashion statement. I read it as "I want you to know I like popular brands over high quality and m…
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#37Whilst I dislike Beats, I admire them a lot. They entered a market where every company was focusing on sound quality first, aesthetics second and they came in with a new take: headphones should look good (I actually dislike the style but a lot of young people seem to love it), and should have a lot of bass to make certain types of music - music listened to by young people - sound good (again, I dislike this but many…
> certain types of music - music listened to by young people Can I feel old now? Where's my lawn? > People aren't buying the headphones for the sound quality, they're buying it for everything else. I find this worrying, really. Are we so desperate to consume that we're willing to buy shit just for sake of buying?
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#38Whilst I dislike Beats, I admire them a lot. They entered a market where every company was focusing on sound quality first, aesthetics second and they came in with a new take: headphones should look good (I actually dislike the style but a lot of young people seem to love it), and should have a lot of bass to make certain types of music - music listened to by young people - sound good (again, I dislike this but many…
(And personally I wouldn't put much stock in what the audiophiles think. The homoeopathy-grade "facts" and "truths" which pervade much of the audiophile world are in my opinion far more contemptible.)
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#39It's funny how a hobby (hi-fi, audiophile, whatever you want to call it) dominated by white men just happens to get so incensed over something marketed by and to the urban crowd.
Why aren't we angry about every other thing that's endorsed by celebrities? Why this one in particular? I don't think the folks behind Activia yogurt "played everybody for a fool" or "had us over a barrel from the beginning" because they hired Jamie Lee Curtie as a spokesperson. They certainly didn't spend their budget on inventing a better tasting yogurt or one with different cultures in it, that's for sure.
"Sound quality" is not a great reason to pick on Beats. Most headphones and speakers (under $1000 or so) aren't even trying to sound neutral; they're intentionally boosting certain frequencies and suppressing others. Beats headphones are obviously massively boosting the bass, but this isn't any less "accurate" than, say, your average Grado headphones and many enthusiasts (myself included) really enjoy those things.
Marco Arment had the perfect analogy, I think.
"Beats did to headphones what Starbucks did to coffee:
while they’re not the best, they’re a huge upgrade from
what most people were using before, and they’ve
dramatically increased the market and mainstream
acceptability of spending $200–400 on full-sized
headphones and wearing them in public."
While the changes brought by Beats and Starbucks haven't been entirely positive, even if you don't like them, they've definitely expanded the market. The net effect of Beats is that there are TONS of great headphones on the market now, more than there were ten years ago. For a guy like me who's a fan of that stuff that's good news even though I'm not a Beats customer.Re: How Beats by Dre played you like a fool
#40Isn't this just same old same old? We have a fantastic independent coffee shop at the end of our road. When a major coffee chain opened a few doors down, I asked him if he was worried. His reply: "No. The kind of people that drink coffee in Starbucks don't pay for coffee in independent coffee shops.". It's the same here. Beats' target market is not people that love good quality headphones, but people that want fashio…
Interestingly, both Starbucks and Beats have prices similar to nice, higher-end products in their respective markets.