They have forgot to think about deployment. Creating a package for Meteor, for a Linux distro, is a major pain in the ass and discouraged by the Meteor developers.
Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0
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#92here's my question for those building their 'app' 'startup' with meteor.js what does it accomplish for you that normal server rendered framework doesn't do for you? when you build a meteor.js app you need phantomjs to get it indexed...it won't work on older browsers....the list goes on I just have trouble justifying why I would need to write my next app using meteor.js
It accomplishes many things that other frameworks don't, the most important of which are ease of use and dramatic productivity gains. I recommend reading meteor.com/about for a high level overview and then diving into the description of projects at meteor.com/projects to understand how the various components of Meteor function. The original screencast at meteor.com/screencast is also a very useful introduction, and if you want to spend about half an hour building an app to get the basics down, meteor.com/try will do just that.
Using phantomjs to index your site has not caused any problems for most of us building apps in production for the past two years. From an engineering standpoint there are better alternatives such as server-side rendering (btw, there is a Meteor package that does this: https://github.com/meteorhacks/meteor-ssr), so outside of performance considerations this isn't a super big deal. A lot of Meteor apps also aren't Google-facing but instead apps that you use after log in, where Meteor's advantages have the biggest effect on one's productivity.
Meteor works in every evergreen browser and quite a few older ones. It will fall back to polling if there is no support for websockets and the Blaze view library works in IE8+.
I recommend just trying it out. It takes no time to install and get your first app started (<1 min) and you will immediately start to see the benefits. Come tell us more about your situation at forums.meteor.com and maybe we can help!
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Definitely my biggest current beef with Meteor. It seems technically possible and I understand why they would go with Mongo first, so hopefully its just a matter of time.
Ben (the guy in the video) is working on SQL support! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJzulpXZn6g Here's a follow-up talk he did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSI68J9wNJ0 Also, there's prototype-grade support for Redis: https://github.com/meteor/redis-livedata And that's just the beginning. There are lots more databases that will follow: https://www.meteor.com/full-stack-db-drivers
This looks good with the videos. I'm contemplating building an app that requires SQL. I've built a few apps with meteor but mongo's lock keeps crashing my website down.
The current third party packages with SQL support are very experimental and don't support nearly as much as the native mongo driver.
I assume when Meteor does this or if Arunoda does it would be pretty awesome. Especially with PostgreSQL since it supports native live queries.
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#94Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why aren't these great books turned into the official documentation if the current official docs are lacking in so much quality?
Because that sort of "consulting economy" is the open source business model de jure.
It's not really new, except perhaps it being more indie now. In most (but not all) niches over the years, the paid, formal published for-profit books have provided the best documentation, right back to the 70s, through O'Reilly's catalogue (he got rich for a reason), through MSDN, and right up to now. Indeed, it's possibly better now because a single author can do it all on their own.
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#96I get an astroturfing vibe from Meteor. Coming from the consulting world, I have seen this too many times from entities with vested commercial interests. For this reason I always withhold any opinion until real world experience checks in from someone trusted.
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#97Meteor and bootstrap combined have made it awesome to prototype new ideas. Everything is very smooth and as a beginner web developer I'm not banging my head against the wall writing large amounts of code to link various frameworks together. A few hours a day for a week have already generated real progress with a startup idea, which would have taken me weeks using angular/express/mongo/node separately. As someone with…
Is the real time nature of Meteor important to your product?
I ask because I'm considering trying Meteor to prototype some ideas none of which particularly need real-time data updates in the client.
Would I be better off with some alternative framework or is meteor still super quick to pick up and get stuff done for 'regular' web apps? Being able to knock an idea out quickly vastly outweighs any kind of scalability concerns and most performance concerns.
(Bearing in mind that I am familiar with JS and Android development, free time for noodling on personal projects is in very short supply and not got the time to learn a totally new language)
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#98Rapid prototyping is all fine and dandy...but what happens if my idea actually does gain traction? This is the part that makes me uneasy about Meteor. It sounds like I'm either going to have to rewrite everything completely, or wait until Meteor matures, if I need to scale.
What good is a scalability if you never launch your product?
I used to shun SaaS web apps due to expense - "Layer messaging, $25/month, I'll build my own. When I get thousands of users it'll be too expensive."
Then I thought - it'll take me more than 6 months to build something which doesn't even scratch the feature set they have. Better use the tools and services available to build rapidly now, get to market and swap it out later.
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#99Trello user voice converted to realease !!
Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0
#100Rapid prototyping is all fine and dandy...but what happens if my idea actually does gain traction? This is the part that makes me uneasy about Meteor. It sounds like I'm either going to have to rewrite everything completely, or wait until Meteor matures, if I need to scale.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18083835/how-many-concurr... 2500 subscriptions per minutes on a shitty $5 digital ocean droplet (in 2013). Don't put the cart before the horse, 99.99% of applications don't reach even 100 concurrent users on a regular basis.
exactly for big cakephp site...wordpress maybe