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Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

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Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

#31
I used Meteor a number of times a few years ago and was totally blown away by it. Utterly fantastic.

Then went down the route of working in enterprise java for a few years and now, trying to get into full stack javascript based development, I feel totally swamped.

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#32
Meteor and bootstrap combined have made it awesome to prototype new ideas. Everything is very smooth and as a beginner web developer I'm not banging my head against the wall writing large amounts of code to link various frameworks together.

A few hours a day for a week have already generated real progress with a startup idea, which would have taken me weeks using angular/express/mongo/node separately. As someone with a full time job who is trying to work on side projects in my free time after work, it's really nice to see progress every night and definitely motivates me to keep going.

Keep it up!

Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

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What's great is you can still use React with a Meteor backend. There are tons of integrations and examples out there on how to do so. :)

I haven't used Meteor too much, and I always seem to find myself a bit mystified as to what it really is . Is it the front-end? Seems like no, if you can swap that out with React. Is it the back-end? Can that be swapped? The real-time communication functionality? The tooling? All of the above, with caveats? I'm very curious!

It's a full stack platform (note the distinction between a framework and a platform). I could explain it further, but I think reading through the tutorial [1] will help you more.

1: https://www.meteor.com/install

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What's great is you can still use React with a Meteor backend. There are tons of integrations and examples out there on how to do so. :)

I haven't used Meteor too much, and I always seem to find myself a bit mystified as to what it really is . Is it the front-end? Seems like no, if you can swap that out with React. Is it the back-end? Can that be swapped? The real-time communication functionality? The tooling? All of the above, with caveats? I'm very curious!

Meteor is a full-stack platform. It is made up of a bunch of smaller sub projects that come together to make this awesome project. So, if you don't want to use part of it, you don't necessarily have to.

You can read more about that here: https://www.meteor.com/projects

Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

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The tooling is where Meteor really shines. I must admit I found React to be quite cumbersome to get off the ground, in contrast Meteor is pure bliss. It hasn't all been roses; I've had plenty of obstacles to overcome as I've learnt the framework, its capabilities and its limitations, but the community has been helpful and I can honestly say that working with Meteor is on the whole very slick. https://atmospherejs.com…

From what I have seen the tooling is definitely great. I am not the worlds biggest fan of Ruby on Rails, but one aspect I have always liked is the scaffolding. Being able to generate the skeleton of an application from the command line without needing to glue anything together or read documentation on multiple plugins. Don't get me wrong, I love working with React.js, but it isn't a framework and aspects like dealing…

I agree. Scaffolding and generators to glue things together in code are sorely missing in Meteor. Scaffolding is useful to beginners and experts alike.

With everything in a predictable location and following the same patterns, code is more intuitive to reason out.

Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's great is you can still use React with a Meteor backend. There are tons of integrations and examples out there on how to do so. :)

I haven't used Meteor too much, and I always seem to find myself a bit mystified as to what it really is . Is it the front-end? Seems like no, if you can swap that out with React. Is it the back-end? Can that be swapped? The real-time communication functionality? The tooling? All of the above, with caveats? I'm very curious!

It's a full stack framework. Check out this article: http://wiki.dandascalescu.com/essays/Why_Meteor

Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

#39
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What's great is you can still use React with a Meteor backend. There are tons of integrations and examples out there on how to do so. :)

I haven't used Meteor too much, and I always seem to find myself a bit mystified as to what it really is . Is it the front-end? Seems like no, if you can swap that out with React. Is it the back-end? Can that be swapped? The real-time communication functionality? The tooling? All of the above, with caveats? I'm very curious!

All of the above seems pretty accurate. Meteor aims to provide pretty much 100% of the things you need to build a real-time web app right out of the box (or package manager). Front-end, back-end, middleware, tooling, DB wrapper, etc.

Meteor is modular enough that you can swap out current pieces if you want to, but you're certainly not expected to do that (and if you're just getting started with Meteor, it's almost discouraged). And there are plenty of benefits to just using Meteor for everything -- e.g. Meteor creates a "minimongo" interface on the client that lets you re-use your MongoDB queries on the client.

One way to grok this is to compare Meteor to Django. Just as you can swap out Django's default homegrown templating system with Jinja, you can swap out Meteor's default homegrown reactive frontend with React. But you certainly don't have to and neither Django's or Meteor's devs expect you to.

There's a more thorough discussion of Meteor's various parts here: http://joshowens.me/what-is-meteor-js/

Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

#40

I think I might give Meteor a shot. For a long time I have been working with AngularJS and Node.js. Recently I have been working exclusively with React.js + Flux and Node.js to build isomorphic web applications. I like the fact Meteor is isomorphic by default and comes with everything you need. I have always somewhat seen it as this outlier, a great looking framework but lacking the same vocality that Facebook and Go…

If you get lost at any point, I highly recommend https://www.discovermeteor.com/ . Definitely much useful than the official documentation if you're looking for any sort of tutorial.

Why aren't these great books turned into the official documentation if the current official docs are lacking in so much quality?
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