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Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

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Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

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Post by benstr »

akshatpradhan wrote: post #36
DigitalSea wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I have seen the tooling is definitely great. I am not the worlds biggest fan of Ruby on Rails, but one aspect I have always liked is the scaffolding. Being able to generate the skeleton of an application from the command line without needing to glue anything together or read documentation on multiple plugins. Don't get me wrong, I love working with React.js, but it isn't a framework and aspects like dealing…

I agree. Scaffolding and generators to glue things together in code are sorely missing in Meteor. Scaffolding is useful to beginners and experts alike. With everything in a predictable location and following the same patterns, code is more intuitive to reason out.

Ask and you shall receive. https://github.com/iron-meteor/iron-cli

There are actually a handful of good scaffolding options for Meteor. But once you understand Meteor's special treatment of some folders & files, and the basic CRUD stuff then you will be hooked and scaffolding will not be a big thing :)

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Post by benstr »

akshatpradhan wrote: post #40
andrewfong wrote: post #29

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If you get lost at any point, I highly recommend https://www.discovermeteor.com/ . Definitely much useful than the official documentation if you're looking for any sort of tutorial.

Why aren't these great books turned into the official documentation if the current official docs are lacking in so much quality?

The official docs are great for the core APIs. I agree more attention is needed for Blaze and Spacebars. But lacking? No.

The source code is very well annotated also.

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Post by DeBraid »

Been working with Meteor for over a year and loved every minute. Meteor solves the biggest problems facing modern app development: one-language/code base/API for web and mobile, syncing data between client and server, free simple hosting. My intro to Meteor slides have links, etc http://fsto.meteor.com/#/4/5 and I fast-forwarded to GIF that perfectly captures how stoked I was after building a few apps.

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Post by lai »

DigitalSea wrote: post #26
lordbusiness wrote: post #20

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The tooling is where Meteor really shines. I must admit I found React to be quite cumbersome to get off the ground, in contrast Meteor is pure bliss. It hasn't all been roses; I've had plenty of obstacles to overcome as I've learnt the framework, its capabilities and its limitations, but the community has been helpful and I can honestly say that working with Meteor is on the whole very slick. https://atmospherejs.com…

From what I have seen the tooling is definitely great. I am not the worlds biggest fan of Ruby on Rails, but one aspect I have always liked is the scaffolding. Being able to generate the skeleton of an application from the command line without needing to glue anything together or read documentation on multiple plugins. Don't get me wrong, I love working with React.js, but it isn't a framework and aspects like dealing…

There are some guys that created a Meteor code generator: http://www.meteorkitchen.com and yes there's the NPM iron-cli.

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Post by primigenus »

If you're just learning about Meteor or haven't really checked it out yet, I recommend reading the mission page: https://www.meteor.com/about - not only is it inspiring, but it helps frame what they're shooting for. The first paragraph:

"Writing software is too hard and it takes too long. It's time for a new way to write software — especially application software, the user-facing software we use every day to talk to people and keep track of things."

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Post by vinceyuan »

gaplus wrote: post #28
callmeed wrote: post #3

I'm curious what startups or big companies are using Meteor in production

My custom packaging startup Packlane ( http://packlane.com ) uses Meteor. Really grateful for this update since the old Mongo version had some major issues.

It cost me more than 30 seconds to load your website at the first time.

Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

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Post by dturnbull »

andrewfong wrote: post #29
DigitalSea wrote: post #10

I think I might give Meteor a shot. For a long time I have been working with AngularJS and Node.js. Recently I have been working exclusively with React.js + Flux and Node.js to build isomorphic web applications. I like the fact Meteor is isomorphic by default and comes with everything you need. I have always somewhat seen it as this outlier, a great looking framework but lacking the same vocality that Facebook and Go…

If you get lost at any point, I highly recommend https://www.discovermeteor.com/ . Definitely much useful than the official documentation if you're looking for any sort of tutorial.

For the sake of shameless self-promotion, I'd also like to suggest my book for anyone who feels Discover Meteor moves a bit too fast: http://meteortips.com/book/ (It's free.)

:)

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Post by erichuppert »

bmajz wrote: post #11
callmeed wrote: post #3

I'm curious what startups or big companies are using Meteor in production

While we're not a big startup, we are using Meteor in production ( https://www.getsubcurrent.com ). We picked it because it enabled us to move much faster than anything we had used in the past and while it has issues that I foresee being problematic, it seems premature to optimize for them. The Meteor team is doing a great job maintaining compatibility and not forcing us developers on to make any changes to our apps…

What are the issues that you expect to face?

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Post by lloydde »

I took a look at Meteor pre-1.0 and definitely plan to revisit. I just checked to see if "Mongo package fails to report closure of inactive cursors." [1] is marked resolved. I may be misremembering the issue, but it seemed like a bug with a smell. The sort of subtle bug that might measure the water level, one that could be hard to debug for a beginner if encountered in the wild and one that is essential to have fixed for production apps.

1. https://github.com/meteor/meteor/issues/2792

Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

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Post by bmajz »

erichuppert wrote: post #48
bmajz wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While we're not a big startup, we are using Meteor in production ( https://www.getsubcurrent.com ). We picked it because it enabled us to move much faster than anything we had used in the past and while it has issues that I foresee being problematic, it seems premature to optimize for them. The Meteor team is doing a great job maintaining compatibility and not forcing us developers on to make any changes to our apps…

What are the issues that you expect to face?

Just off the top of my head:

1. We will probably eventually need SQL

2. It might not make sense to be so JS heavy, especially since we are enterprise focused and may have to support older browsers for extended periods

3. General performance issues at scale that I would have with any new framework

Planning on solving these problems when we hit them - for now, fast is best.

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