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Jay Z Reveals Plans for Tidal, a Streaming Music Service

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Re: Jay Z Reveals Plans for Tidal, a Streaming Music Service

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Post by DIVx0 »

freehunter wrote: post #12
DIVx0 wrote: post #8

I'd pay $20/month or more for a service that: * had high quality streams * had gigantic library * _biggest of all_ cracked the 'discovery' nut. I listen to music all day, I don't like to listen to the same tracks more than a few times so I have a hard time keeping my queue full. I'm a Spotify subscriber so I'll find an artist I think is interesting, play their whole discography and then start digging into 'related ar…

I like Spotify's discovery. I subscribe to a lot of playlists that are constantly updated where I can get a lot of new artists from. Never used the radio, I just go to their playlists and find Americana or Alternative or whatever I'm looking for.

I've tried many of their playlists. I've found some that are very good and was thrilled to find them, however the content was easy to exhaust and I ended up picking apart those playlists for new artists. Back to square 1 if you will.

I know it sounds like whining, but I really think the 'killer app' of music will be something that can effortlessly pick out the unknown gems from the ocean of new music. I'm continually surprised about the quality of new music but I don't like to have to dig around for it my self.

Re: Jay Z Reveals Plans for Tidal, a Streaming Music Service

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Post by encoderer »

freehunter wrote: post #10

Here's the problem: I don't want another music service. I want all my favorite artists on one music service. There is literally no reason for them to not be other than various forms of greed. Garth Brooks created his own music streaming service because the people behind the album don't get enough attention. Taylor Swift doesn't put her music on Spotify because she can make more money on iTunes. Jay Z creates a stream…

You single out Taylor Swift, the number one recording artist in the country today. She's sold millions and millions of albums. Her brand in this country is certainly bigger than Spotify's.

If spotify had 100 million active users you bet your ass Taylor Swift and every other professional recording artist would be in their catalog. But it's just a fraction of that size. Streaming music is still a fragmented market. Spotify is not the platform your comment suggests.

Re: Jay Z Reveals Plans for Tidal, a Streaming Music Service

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Post by copsarebastards »

deeviant wrote: post #5

“This is a platform that’s owned by artists,” - Jay Z I think he meant, "This is a platform owned by established, rich, and ageing artists, whose resolve to assist up-and-comers should rightfully be questioned." Not to say this can be any worse then something like Spotify, which already trounces over the independents, but I hardly think this is a likely group to bring democracy and creativity back to the musical scen…

Up-and-coming artists seem to be quite happy with Bandcamp these days.

Re: Jay Z Reveals Plans for Tidal, a Streaming Music Service

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Post by Retra »

nothrabannosir wrote: post #21
freehunter wrote: post #10

Here's the problem: I don't want another music service. I want all my favorite artists on one music service. There is literally no reason for them to not be other than various forms of greed. Garth Brooks created his own music streaming service because the people behind the album don't get enough attention. Taylor Swift doesn't put her music on Spotify because she can make more money on iTunes. Jay Z creates a stream…

Competition = good, one music service to rule them all = bad. Good on Tailor Swift for keeping Spotify on their toes. Good on you for choosing Spotify and not Tidal. Let a thousand musical flowers bloom, and may they forever compete for attention of the bees, giving us more colors and extravagance as time progresses. Please keep making alternative music services and please keep giving us more choice, better quality a…

More choice doesn't mean better quality. It means you are far more likely to make the wrong choice, and that you have to invest more energy into doing so.

And that can really eliminate the convenience such a service aims to provide in the first place.

Choice is good when the options are differentiated. Like choosing between a CD, an MP3, or a streaming service. It's not nearly so good when you are choosing between Stream A, Stream B, or Stream C.

Re: Jay Z Reveals Plans for Tidal, a Streaming Music Service

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Post by some1else »

“The challenge is to get everyone to respect music again, to recognize its value,” said Jay Z, whose real name is Shawn Carter. “Water is free. Music is $6 but no one wants to pay for music. You should drink free water from the tap — it’s a beautiful thing. And if you want to hear the most beautiful song, then support the artist.”

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Water is metered here in Slovenia, more like on-demand streaming.

Re: Jay Z Reveals Plans for Tidal, a Streaming Music Service

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Post by nothrabannosir »

jfb wrote: post #28
nothrabannosir wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Competition = good, one music service to rule them all = bad. Good on Tailor Swift for keeping Spotify on their toes. Good on you for choosing Spotify and not Tidal. Let a thousand musical flowers bloom, and may they forever compete for attention of the bees, giving us more colors and extravagance as time progresses. Please keep making alternative music services and please keep giving us more choice, better quality a…

Remember how the Hundred Flowers Campaign ended -- with an extinction event. Something not dissimilar is going to happen to these streaming services, because they simply do not differentiate from each other sufficiently.

Oh my, I had no idea about the grim background of that soundbite... You're right, that totally changes what I thought was a beautiful figure of speech.

Re: Jay Z Reveals Plans for Tidal, a Streaming Music Service

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Post by copsarebastards »

nothrabannosir wrote: post #21
freehunter wrote: post #10

Here's the problem: I don't want another music service. I want all my favorite artists on one music service. There is literally no reason for them to not be other than various forms of greed. Garth Brooks created his own music streaming service because the people behind the album don't get enough attention. Taylor Swift doesn't put her music on Spotify because she can make more money on iTunes. Jay Z creates a stream…

Competition = good, one music service to rule them all = bad. Good on Tailor Swift for keeping Spotify on their toes. Good on you for choosing Spotify and not Tidal. Let a thousand musical flowers bloom, and may they forever compete for attention of the bees, giving us more colors and extravagance as time progresses. Please keep making alternative music services and please keep giving us more choice, better quality a…

Who said anything about one music service to rule them all?

Spotify, iTunes, etc. could all exist and carry all the music, and compete on their software, reliability, etc.

Re: Jay Z Reveals Plans for Tidal, a Streaming Music Service

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Post by copsarebastards »

lqdc13 wrote: post #18

Why not just let people download the songs? I would hate to stream FLACs... Or stream anything for that matter. Then again, Bandcamp already does it.

Yeah, I'd rather download stuff too, but we're not the average user. I think an ideal platform does both.
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