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New Jersey legalizes direct Tesla sales

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Re: New Jersey legalizes direct Tesla sales

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because the dealership's concern is not Tesla, whom they consider a niche player. Their concern is their manufacturers GM, Toyota, Ford will set up their own stores and compete with and undercut them. The dealerships have poured a lot of resources into their dealerships over the years and it is an anti-trust issue for them to compete directly with the much more powerfule manufacturers.

If they can't compete, that means they're not providing sufficient value. What value would I, as a consumer, enjoy by doing business with a local dealer rather than the manufacturer? I don't think the fear here is that they would "undercut them". I would do business directly with Ford, Toyota, etc. even if the price were the same. That's what they're afraid of.

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. Yes, that is my point, they fear consumers dealing directly with the auto manufacturers. If they dealt directly with manufacturers, it is implicit they would use a fixed price model like Tesla. That's what I mean by "undercut."

Currently Most people don't pay the same price. The price you pay depends on how much the sales person can wrangle out of you. A fixed price from the manufacturer threatens the jobs and livelihood of car salesmen.

I am not defending the auto dealers. I am a Tesla stock holder. I am merely pointing out their enemy's position. This is part of why the limit on the # of stores puts the dealerships at ease.

Re: New Jersey legalizes direct Tesla sales

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Even if you do pay the sticker price, you might also be trading your car in, in which case you still have to negotiate how much they will pay you for your car. Not only that but the sticker prices are usually artificially high since they are expecting negotiation with high prices for random add-ons like paint protection or other things nobody asked for.

1. If you trade your old car to Tesla, you still have to negotiate it's price. 2. I am not sure how is your opinion about price is related to the experience at the dealership. Sticker prices for all cars are available online, and you can make a decision if the car worth that price well in advance. Once you make that decision nothing is stopping you from having a great car buying experience.

You are totally right, that was dumb of me. Oops

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My understanding is that these laws were put into place so that the manufacturers couldn't have it both ways - they couldn't enjoy the low startup-capital requirements of the franchise model, and then after using the franchisees to grow and scout out the best spots, cherrypick the most lucrative spots for manufacturer owned dealerships, driving out the independent dealerships by using their lower end-to-end costs. Be…

> and then after using the franchisees to grow and scout out the best spots, cherrypick the most lucrative spots for manufacturer owned dealerships This is easily resolved on the contract level. Knowing this, nobody with half a brain would start a franchise unless the parent company guaranteed the territory. That's how it works in virtually every other franchising market.

Good point.

Re: New Jersey legalizes direct Tesla sales

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You're missing a huge part. Get an insurance quote for what it will run you every 6 months. You can also get a tag, title and tax quote as well. Also 200-300 for DMV is for a $2000 car in CA or a $6000 car in OK. $200-300 sounds extraordinarily low based on my purchases in both the midwest (MO, TX, OK) and west coast (CA 10%+).

When you buy from a dealership, you pay the taxes to them. If you are buying a used car from another person, you pay the taxes at the DMV. The $200-300 is just registration + any fees.

Depends on the state. In CA yes you do. In OK/TX/MO I never paid the dealer.
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