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Dell’s Linux PC sequel still just works, but adds 4K screen and rough edges

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Re: Dell’s Linux PC sequel still just works, but adds 4K screen and rough edges

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Why in god's name does a laptop that large not have independent home/end/pgup/pgdn keys. This trend drives me nuts.

because you can just press space/shift+space.

Pressing space in a text editor tends to add a space. Pressing pgdn doesn't.

Re: Dell’s Linux PC sequel still just works, but adds 4K screen and rough edges

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Was country was that store in? Did you buy it straight from Lenovo or from some of their retail partners?

Strait from Lenovo in Canada. You need to speak with a rep though. I didn't ask for the discount, just mentioned I didn't want Windows and asked about Linux options.

Interesting. I wonder if Canada has some better laws about it. I can try ordering there if it's so. The rep I spoke to was in Lenovo chat though, it wasn't through the phone.

Re: Dell’s Linux PC sequel still just works, but adds 4K screen and rough edges

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>> Or separate mouse buttons. I find that part to be the most annoying part of touch pads on non-Mac laptops these days. I get that Apple has the reputation for having the best pads (which makes them an ideal source for copying ideas), but I've always hated the clicking mechanism on my Macbook Pro, especially when it came to right clicks. My Lenovo Y50 at least doesn't require a second finger to right click, but I wo…

> ... especially when it came to right clicks Just curious, do you have secondary click set to click with two fingers, or to click in bottom right corner?

I'm admittedly clumsy and imprecise with touch pads, so neither option works well for me.

On my Mac, I had it set to the default, which was two fingers. On my Lenovo, it's set to click in the bottom right half. I keep missing (because I don't look down) and click the bottom left half by mistake.

Re: Dell’s Linux PC sequel still just works, but adds 4K screen and rough edges

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Dell has achieved feature parity with the Retina MacBook Pro, and has made huge improvements on their last 'MBP competitor', the XPS 15. However, looking at it objectively, the article pretty much sums it up: Thunderbolt port doesn't really work in Ubuntu Application-level 4k scaling issues are pretty much all over the place If all you're after is Linux on a laptop, you can do it for cheaper than the M3800's starting…

I've got an Inspiron 15 7000 which has an Nvidia GPU, good specs, and was pretty cheap. Only 1080p resolution though.

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Or a second windows key. Or separate mouse buttons. Sigh

Why do people use a second windows button? I've never understood how it is useful.

>> Why do people use a second windows button?

It's useful to people who prefer to (or are conditioned to) hit it with their right hand.

Re: Dell’s Linux PC sequel still just works, but adds 4K screen and rough edges

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Oh interesting, this is the M3800 which is Dell's beefy 15" Linux laptop. Glad to see it getting some light. If you're looking for something more portable, the New XPS 13 is in development and is supposed to launch soon. I follow the project lead's blog here: http://bartongeorge.net/ My hats off to the Dell team; they're very open about what they're doing, making better drivers etc. before launching the product. For…

>> the M3800 which is Dell's beefy 15" Linux laptop. Actually, the 6.3lb M4800 is Dell's beefy laptop.

The M3800 is Dell's beefy 15" Linux laptop.

Re: Dell’s Linux PC sequel still just works, but adds 4K screen and rough edges

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looks like a good notebook. but I have lots of issues with nvidia gpu under linux. everytime the kernel gets updated, I get a black screen.

Unfortunately, that's really the result of the API/ABI choices that the Linux kernel developers have made. There are no stable interfaces for kernel modules, and they frequently break existing interfaces. This means that any third-party driver that is not included in the mainline kernel source is effectively broken either via API or ABI almost every kernel update. So it's not specifically a proprietary driver issue s…

ABI stability is not a feature, it's a bug. It means you can't fix the kernel and every driver in it, and you have to keep legacy interfaces around. This isn't just about keeping old function entry points around; the kernel regularly redesigns and rearchitects core subsystems in ways that cannot support the previous function entry points, and that's completely OK because the developers making those changes go fix all the drivers.

So no, the kernel will never have a stale^Wstable ABI for drivers (as opposed to userspace). Out of tree modules are a bug; pick hardware that doesn't need them. Graphics are one of the last areas where some of the widely used hardware still doesn't have FOSS drivers; just about everything else works with in-tree drivers.

And the stability issues aren't just with keeping the drivers up to date. Users who run the nVidia proprietary driver regularly report crashes and stability issues.

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