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Dell’s Linux PC sequel still just works, but adds 4K screen and rough edges

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Re: Dell’s Linux PC sequel still just works, but adds 4K screen and rough edges

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Post by karlgrz »

jamesblonde wrote: post #31

I have had the previous m3800, with 3.5K screen, and a 512GB SSD. I'm running dual-boot windows 8, but with Ubuntu 14.10 as my primary OS. The touchscreen and scaling of windows is great. On Ubuntu they are non-existant. I can't use my finger to scroll, but can launch apps with my finger. Using my fingers is something i'm really getting to like. Things like getting a putty connection to my server in 2 seconds works n…

If you open Google Chrome -with your finger- on Ubuntu 14.04 (and 14.10) it will allow you to use touch for scrolling. If you open it with the mouse...it won't. Weird.

Re: Dell’s Linux PC sequel still just works, but adds 4K screen and rough edges

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Post by karlgrz »

jamesblonde wrote: post #31

I have had the previous m3800, with 3.5K screen, and a 512GB SSD. I'm running dual-boot windows 8, but with Ubuntu 14.10 as my primary OS. The touchscreen and scaling of windows is great. On Ubuntu they are non-existant. I can't use my finger to scroll, but can launch apps with my finger. Using my fingers is something i'm really getting to like. Things like getting a putty connection to my server in 2 seconds works n…

Also, suspend works perfectly on XPS 15 with Ubuntu 14.04 and 14.10, although I had to add a couple of statements to rc.local to prevent it from waking in my backpack:

  echo EHC1 > /proc/acpi/wakeup
  echo EHC2 > /proc/acpi/wakeup
  echo XHC > /proc/acpi/wakeup
After this, the only two devices enabled in /proc/acpi/wakeup are power button and the lid (exactly what I want):

  cat /proc/acpi/wakeup | grep enabled
  PWRB	  S4	*enabled 
  LID0	  S4	*enabled
Don't know if that helps...would probably need more detail on what isn't working with your model's suspend.

Re: Dell’s Linux PC sequel still just works, but adds 4K screen and rough edges

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Post by adamc »

I'll be interested to see how these work out. There were two issues that scared me away from the predecessor: Reported wifi issues and coil whine. If they can avoid significant issues, then it's a nice laptop, although the battery life could be better.

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Post by shmerl »

farresito wrote: post #24
shmerl wrote: post #13

I wish all manufacturers would just allow buying computers without an OS. I recently tried to check if Lenovo offers Windows refund for those who reject the EULA. No dice. They still claim Windows tax is mandatory even if you don't need Windows. What I never understood though is how can they legally do it. Doesn't it violate product tying laws?

Someone mentioned here in Hacker News a few weeks ago that he managed to buy a Thinkpad without OS and with a Windows' refund.

Do you remember what country that was in?

I know in France there was a major victory in court against Lenovo and Windows bundling. So may be there the situation is better now and Lenovo can't get away with forcing the Windows tax anymore.

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Post by stormbrew »

tpeaton wrote: post #39
stormbrew wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've spent plenty of time on keyboards without them (largely macs) and I still hate it. My old Toshiba laptop (z830 -- a 14" laptop, no less) just has them in a straight line along the right edge of the keyboard and that works just fine and doesn't require me to use two hands to do something that should be one finger. Again, it's not like there's some lack of space on this and other 15" laptops. "It's not that hard t…

And I don't care for the independent keys on the top row. It's a stretch with how often I use them. My argument isn't "It's not that hard to...", it's "I prefer this." Different (key)strokes.

Not along the top row. As a column down the side. http://blog.laptopmag.com/wpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/...

As for "different (key)strokes", I wouldn't have an issue if the choice to have these as independent keys were still around, but right now if you want that you have very limited choice. Hence my distaste for the trend.

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Post by shmerl »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #21
shmerl wrote: post #13

I wish all manufacturers would just allow buying computers without an OS. I recently tried to check if Lenovo offers Windows refund for those who reject the EULA. No dice. They still claim Windows tax is mandatory even if you don't need Windows. What I never understood though is how can they legally do it. Doesn't it violate product tying laws?

When I bought my Thinkpad, they gave me a significant ($150) discount when I said I didn't want Windows. It still came with Windows, apparently doing the actual refund process is more difficult than just giving a discount code...

Was country was that store in? Did you buy it straight from Lenovo or from some of their retail partners?

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Post by Mikeb85 »

shmerl wrote: post #47
Mikeb85 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I bought my Thinkpad, they gave me a significant ($150) discount when I said I didn't want Windows. It still came with Windows, apparently doing the actual refund process is more difficult than just giving a discount code...

Was country was that store in? Did you buy it straight from Lenovo or from some of their retail partners?

Strait from Lenovo in Canada. You need to speak with a rep though. I didn't ask for the discount, just mentioned I didn't want Windows and asked about Linux options.

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Post by billconan »

cpbotha wrote: post #19
billconan wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

desktop is a different story. the issue happens when you have both intel and nvidia gpus. see for example: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/790089/linux/nvidia... http://askubuntu.com/questions/372686/after-installing-nvidi...

On Ubuntu this problem is caused by the gpu-manager that keeps on rewriting xorg.conf incorrectly for the Optimus NVIDIA / Intel setup. I analyse the problem and present a hacky work-around in this post: http://vxlabs.com/2015/02/05/solving-the-ubuntu-14-04-nvidia...

Thank you so much! has this issue been filed to ubuntu? I will do it if it hasn't.
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