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Re: How not to advertise for a job in London

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Post by forgottenpass »

fuzzywalrus wrote: post #42
sebular wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're not wrong at all. Furthermore: > 2. Under 30 years old Is obviously age discrimination as well. Unlike some people, I'm under no illusions that tech is non-discriminatory, but it's still surprising and disappointing to see it stated so plainly on a job description. These people are idiots for leaving this document online now that they've been caught. I don't know the specifics of UK labour laws, but in the US…

The youth obsession in tech is strange. I understand a culture fit but the best programmers I know are 40+, they just had the drive to stay up on trends and experience that goes back miles.

The youth obsession in tech is strange.

Young employees are much easier to overwork and underpay. Some 20-somethings even throw years of their personal lives away when the right carrot is dangled in their face.

Re: How not to advertise for a job in London

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Post by polynomial »

testtestq wrote: post #26
brohee wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks, so his last tweet before nuking his account was: "Apologies for my discriminative job advert. It was totally wrong. Going forwards, we’re adopting a more ethical hiring procedure."

He seem to have nuked his linkedin account and similar such accounts as well.

This doesn't make a lot of sense, assuming Xiangyu Wu is his actual name.

Moreover while I can understand deleting a Twitter account after a Tweetstorm, deleting your professional Linked In profile seems pointless at best, unless I am missing something.

Re: How not to advertise for a job in London

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Post by polynomial »

EliRivers wrote: post #22

The ideal candidate displays and implements "pushing forward motions". They... wave their hands in the air? This is a wind up, surely!

Fav part:

"b. come to the office every time a line of code is written."

Not sure how you would get anything done at all, if you had to run to the office every single time you hit the return key.

Re: How not to advertise for a job in London

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Post by redeleven »

agounaris wrote: post #46

Once a recruiter asked me if I had 10 years of experience in a specific technology which is there for less than 5 years...I hung up the phone...

I had a recruiter turn me down for a job interview as I didn't have experience with 'Marcos' on my CV. I think he meant Macros, but I was too busy laughing to find out.

Re: How not to advertise for a job in London

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Post by andyjohnson0 »

vasilipupkin wrote: post #37
andyjohnson0 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The Equality Act 2010 makes it unlawful to discriminate against employees, job seekers and trainees because of their age." [1] [1] http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1841

Wait, UK only adopted this in 2010? Sorry, I am surprised by that

The Employment Equality (Age) Regulations [1] made age discrimination illegal beginning in 2006. Before that it was not illegal. The 2010 act, among other things, extended protection for age discrimination to other people such as prospective employees.

I'm British, and the fact that we only got around to this in 2006 seems to me to be fairly shameful.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_Equality_(Age)_Regul...

Re: How not to advertise for a job in London

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Post by pyre »

brohee wrote: post #24
testtestq wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I managed to see his tweets, where he apologised for his job-posting, by googling for his twittername and looking it up at google cache.

Thanks, so his last tweet before nuking his account was: "Apologies for my discriminative job advert. It was totally wrong. Going forwards, we’re adopting a more ethical hiring procedure."

I can't find the original anywhere. Must have deleted it before Google Cached.

Re: How not to advertise for a job in London

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Post by vasilipupkin »

andyjohnson0 wrote: post #56
vasilipupkin wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, UK only adopted this in 2010? Sorry, I am surprised by that

The Employment Equality (Age) Regulations [1] made age discrimination illegal beginning in 2006. Before that it was not illegal. The 2010 act, among other things, extended protection for age discrimination to other people such as prospective employees. I'm British, and the fact that we only got around to this in 2006 seems to me to be fairly shameful. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_Equality_(Age)_Regul..…

well, we've got plenty of shameful things in the US that we haven't gotten around to fixing, so no worries

Re: How not to advertise for a job in London

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Post by s73v3r »

ironrabbit wrote: post #2

Under "common behaviours of our ideal candidate" in the HR doc posted: > 8. Just a nice dude It seems obvious to me that this is outright illegal gender discrimination, am I wrong?

Dude can sometimes be used to refer to people of both genders. Although in a professional job posting, there are dozens of words that would be more explicitly gender-neutral and a better choice.

Re: How not to advertise for a job in London

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Post by s73v3r »

Xophmeister wrote: post #6
ironrabbit wrote: post #2

Under "common behaviours of our ideal candidate" in the HR doc posted: > 8. Just a nice dude It seems obvious to me that this is outright illegal gender discrimination, am I wrong?

"Dude" doesn't necessarily imply male, but it is strongly slanted that way. I'm not sure if it would hold up as discrimination.

While it might not hold up as being against the law, it likely would deter many females from applying.
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