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Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Hi everyone. I wanted to let you know (and I know this isn't a huge surprise) that we will be shutting down the Google Code project hosting system over the next year. Wired did a nice story about Github that touches on the shutdown: http://www.wired.com/2015/03/github-conquered-google-microso... I'll be hanging around answering questions, but the short form of 'why' is that it just isn't used much anymore, ourselves…

What will happen to the bug trackers of large Google projects like android, chromium, app engine, etc?

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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It's not monoculture, there is also bitbucket which IMHO is much better product. Problem is that all the cool kids are now using github and if you want to look cool you also have to use github. Or you could just ignore the hype and use bitbucket.

I'm genuinely curious, what do you like better about bitbucket?

I migrated all my projects to Bitbucket when GitHub decided they do not want to host release downloads (they reversed the decision after that). I also use other Atlassian products and I trust the company to maintain the product, much more than I trust GitHub.

Bitbucket has much better review tools - hierarchical comments, approve button, side-by-side diff (GitHub has added that recently).

You can see commit log as a "graph", not just a simple list. It's easier to identify merges.

And it does not charge for personal private repositories.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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This makes me question: how important does Google see developers as being as part of their ecosystem? I mean, I understand all the rational logic of what they are saying. Sure, there are other services etc etc, the world will keep turning. But doesn't Google see any kind of benefit from having developers using their service? In terms of mind share, having developers think positively about Google, having them regularl…

Google wants developers contributing to their projects, so they go where the developers go. The developers have moved onto GitHub and have effectively abandoned Google Code, therefore so has Google. Stubbornly maintaining their own service no one wants just breeds confusion and and a division of resources.

As the article says:

> To meet developers where they are, we ourselves migrated nearly a thousand of our own open source projects from Google Code to GitHub.

Nearly a thousand open-source Google projects have been migrated to GitHub already.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Hi everyone. I wanted to let you know (and I know this isn't a huge surprise) that we will be shutting down the Google Code project hosting system over the next year. Wired did a nice story about Github that touches on the shutdown: http://www.wired.com/2015/03/github-conquered-google-microso... I'll be hanging around answering questions, but the short form of 'why' is that it just isn't used much anymore, ourselves…

This wired article tries to rewrite the history: > rather geeky and sometimes unreliable internet site called SourceForge Wtf. SourceForge was for a long time very decent. It wasn't geeky nor unreliable, it offered CVS and later Subversion, web hosting, mailing list hosting, forums and downloads. GoogleCode itself was geeky with its very basic "Wiki", but it had a leaner "GMail style" UI, with only basic features so…

If any open source projects want to self host with GitLab CE we will be glad to provide free consulting to help them migrate and provide a free instance. Contact me at sytse@gitlab.com to get started.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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What's the median lifetime of free cloud services? It seems to be around 5 years. Someone probably tracks that. With SourceForge putting ads in installers, they're no longer a good option. This leaves GitHub in a monopoly position, which is worrisome. Especially given the terms: "GitHub, in its sole discretion, has the right to suspend or terminate your account and refuse any and all current or future use of the Serv…

Look into gitlab

Thanks for mentioning GitLab!

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Among others, there's gitlab.com and bitbucket.com (and also mercurial, as an alternative to git itself -- though the two can push/pull between each other's repos with the right plugin).

Yes, I've installed a gitlab for my company and I'm extremely happy with it, I feel like I've much more control: authentication, authorization, how our projects are organised, etc. We are currently using both private repos on github and gitlab on aws. Regarding mercurial, I used it a lot and hosted lot of things on bitbucket 4 years ago, but now I use git a lot more, just because it is what most of the libraries and…

Great to hear you like GitLab!

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Hi Chris, GitLab CEO here. What do you think about mentioning Gitlab.com as an alternative for people to move to? It has unlimited (private) projects and unlimited collaborators. It is based the open source GitLab project.

It is a very nice system, but the stuff that goes into a shutdown had me fighting to keep the message as tight as possible. I wanted to go on about Bitbucket, gitlab, and put in a long discussion about how this doesn't effect the scalable git team at google at all (we host android and chrome and a ton of internal teams on a git backed on our backends here) , but had to keep the message pure... But I heartily recommen…

Hey look! You get to put "I heartily recommend people look at Gitlab - Chris DiBona, Google" on your homepage.

That you haven't yet is mindboggling.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Sure, services like GitLab and BitBucket are cool, but GitHub is the superior option. Take away the fact that they are open source/have unlimited free repos, and there isn't much else. GitHub has a superior UI, a waaaaaay bigger community, a great API, offers student discounts (5 free repos), and other goodies.

The GitLab UI is improving at a rapid pace, have you tried it recently? Is there anything you miss from our API? http://doc.gitlab.com/ce/api/ With GitLab.com your free repos will never expire.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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I might be feeding here, but the lesson is that you can't count on things Google releases to be around very long. Even APIs for popular products, like Google Maps. Just don't expect anything they release to have a long shelf life. It's annoying and it sucks, and it is now laughable when they tag things with phrases like "free code hosting forever" and so on. For them to change, they'd have to either: 1) Support every…

> Support everything into eternity 'Eternity' overstates it. Plenty of vendors support projects long after they are obsolete. IBM supported OS/2, released 1992 and a marketplace flop, until the end of 2006. That means that if I need something to be around for awhile, I'll count on IBM and not Google. Google has the perogative to make that choice, of course, and long-term support generally is associated more with the…

> 'Eternity' overstates it. Plenty of vendors support projects long after they are obsolete. IBM supported OS/2, released 1992 and a marketplace flop, until the end of 2006.

I'll give you three guesses as to how much those companies still running OS/2 were paying for support in 2006.

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