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Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

xigency wrote: post #94
gtaylor wrote: post #5

I'm sure some are going to immediately say "Yet another Google casualty", but I feel like this one probably needed to happen. It's been stagnant for years, and they have been on the mindshare decline since the first two years. I dread having to deal with open source software that is still on Google Code. Admit failure, provide plenty of notice (like they're doing), and close up shop so resources can be spent on more…

There are thousands of independent/homebrew projects that call Google Code their home that will probably vanish overnight. And not everyone likes using Git to begin with. I don't see why they don't put stricter requirements on starting a project page or contributing instead of making this move.

> And not everyone likes using Git to begin with.

FWIW. Mercurial can use Git as a backend which would ease the tension for those not enamored with it.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by kzhahou »

pdknsk wrote: post #104
sytse wrote: post #57

Hi Chris, GitLab CEO here. What do you think about mentioning Gitlab.com as an alternative for people to move to? It has unlimited (private) projects and unlimited collaborators. It is based the open source GitLab project.

https://about.gitlab.com/ "Better than GitHub" That's quite a motto.

It makes them sound petty and actually-probably-worse.

Just say you're the best git host. Don't mention your competitor.

I'm going to go create an account on it now. Good luck, guys!

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by BinaryIdiot »

sytse wrote: post #139
BinaryIdiot wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay thanks I found that info here https://about.gitlab.com/gitlab-com/ Figured I'd find it on the home page or under pricing or something.

It is the third link on the homepage, that says "Sign up for GitLab.com with unlimited free (private) repositories and collaborators.". But we're open to suggestions to make it more obvious. It is hard to communicate downloads and a saas.

Ah for whatever reason I didn't see that at all.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by perakojotgenije »

rdtsc wrote: post #135

Anyone else scared of the Github monoculture? I am. For all the touted distributed version control advantages we now have one world global centralized repo. Yeah, yeah, I know you can clone it locally. But of course if all the issues, and testing, and build tools are tied to Github. Isn't it a bit disconcerting? Maybe I am just paranoid. And not saying that Google code was going anywhere, I saw more and more projects…

It's not monoculture, there is also bitbucket which IMHO is much better product. Problem is that all the cool kids are now using github and if you want to look cool you also have to use github. Or you could just ignore the hype and use bitbucket.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by sytse »

the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #133
ericfontaine wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it is fair to for GitLab to pitch their service, considering that the google code blogspot post specifically mentioned both GitHub 8 times and Bitbucket 3 times, while GitLab offers similar functionality. It would have been fairer for the blog to not-specifically endorse anything or post a link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_source_code_soft...

> I think it is fair to for GitLab to pitch their service, considering that the google code blogspot post specifically mentioned both GitHub 8 times and Bitbucket 3 times, while GitLab offers similar functionality. The only thing similar between gitlab and github is that they do something with version control. Gitlab is not a place for open source projects. The projects with the most stars on gitlab s gitlab itself w…

Obviously GitHub is much larger, but some projects are moving to GitLab, such as GnuTLS https://twitter.com/GnuTLS/status/573155639683248128

Bitbucket is also mentioned even though they don't have a lot of public projects.

GitLab is open source, has a great interface, many features (protected branches, git-annex support) and we offer unlimited (private) repositories on GitLab.com

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by zorpner »

jdmichal wrote: post #45
gtaylor wrote: post #20

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They kind of get a bad rap for this because of how large and visible they are. The funny thing is that many of the people here on HN have worked on projects that had very finite lifetimes as well, often closing them down for some of the same reasons. Someone has to invest the time and money to keep services running, even if only limping along. Google likes to experiment and test the waters. It's part of why they've b…

I also find a certain level of humor in the oft-espoused "release and pivot" ideology, accompanied with the pleas for mercy found in these Google product shutdown threads. What is different? Why is Google not supposed to release and pivot like everyone else?

At least from my perspective, the problem is that Google sometimes releases into already-existing fields at a price point no one can compete with, absorbs the entire market, then pivots away. This is pretty destructive behavior, and I think fundamentally different from entering a field in which you intend to try to run a business (as opposed to subsidizing your entry into the field with profits from elsewhere in the company in order to undercut current players).

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by sytse »

kzhahou wrote: post #152
pdknsk wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://about.gitlab.com/ "Better than GitHub" That's quite a motto.

It makes them sound petty and actually-probably-worse. Just say you're the best git host. Don't mention your competitor. I'm going to go create an account on it now. Good luck, guys!

Thanks for the suggestion. The first question anyone asks us is how we compare with GitHub, so we figured we answered it right on the homepage. Awesome that you'll give it a spin, I hope you like it.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by jfroma »

warbiscuit wrote: post #126
jfroma wrote: post #98

While I agree that Google Code, as it is right now, isn't needed anymore, I believe there is still room for innovation in this space and I wish there were more players than github, pushing the boundaries harder. As a software developer is a tool that we use all day.

Among others, there's gitlab.com and bitbucket.com (and also mercurial, as an alternative to git itself -- though the two can push/pull between each other's repos with the right plugin).

Yes, I've installed a gitlab for my company and I'm extremely happy with it, I feel like I've much more control: authentication, authorization, how our projects are organised, etc. We are currently using both private repos on github and gitlab on aws.

Regarding mercurial, I used it a lot and hosted lot of things on bitbucket 4 years ago, but now I use git a lot more, just because it is what most of the libraries and opensource projects I use are using.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by sytse »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #101
sytse wrote: post #57

Hi Chris, GitLab CEO here. What do you think about mentioning Gitlab.com as an alternative for people to move to? It has unlimited (private) projects and unlimited collaborators. It is based the open source GitLab project.

Obviously, they specifically closed it because everyone uses Github. I think the key selling point though for you guys, is not putting code on other peoples' servers at all, which is unlikely to be Google Code alums.

Thanks, people hosting their own servers currently are the majority of GitLab users. But we also want to be a valid hosted alternative with GitLab.com and we think free (private) repos with extensive functionality is a pretty sweet deal.
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