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Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by ngoldbaum »

sebastiank123 wrote: post #226
notsony wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rather than recommending a specific Git hoster such as Github, you should have listed out alternatives... especially as Google Code also supports Subversion and Mercurial.

Subversion & Mercurial? Then actually just RhodeCode ( https://rhodecode.com ) is the only alternative since it supports Git, Mercurial and Subversion. Disclaimer: I am RhodeCode's co-founder.

There is also Kallithea (https://kallithea-scm.org/). Kallithea is a free and libre fork of RhodeCode after they dropped their GPLV3 license for parts of the codebase and added a paid user limit.

Kallithea is being actively developed (a 0.2 release is coming soon) by a free software community under the auspices of the software freedom conservancy. See this blog post from Bradley Kuhn for more details: http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2014/07/15/why-kallithea.html

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by mintplant »

ctb_mg wrote: post #172
cdibona wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are planing on taking the majority of these legitimate, open source, 'abandonded' projects and putting them up in cold storage in a git repo on googlesource.com

What is the criteria for "legitimate"? A project useful for me may not be "notable" enough for most to consider "legitimate".

Presumably, not abusing Google Code as a hosting site for pirated content.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by fixermark »

rdtsc wrote: post #135

Anyone else scared of the Github monoculture? I am. For all the touted distributed version control advantages we now have one world global centralized repo. Yeah, yeah, I know you can clone it locally. But of course if all the issues, and testing, and build tools are tied to Github. Isn't it a bit disconcerting? Maybe I am just paranoid. And not saying that Google code was going anywhere, I saw more and more projects…

I don't expect Github to go away anytime soon (though if it did---yes, it would be very disruptive; your paranoia is not unjustified). I'm more concerned about compromise of a single high-value target; anyone remember when rubygems.org was compromised in 2013?

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by sytse »

mlinksva wrote: post #167
kzhahou wrote: post #152

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It makes them sound petty and actually-probably-worse. Just say you're the best git host. Don't mention your competitor. I'm going to go create an account on it now. Good luck, guys!

That motto links to an excellent explanation https://about.gitlab.com/better-than-github/ IMO not mentioning competitors and not providing a detailed comparison to competitors means that marketing is winning and the market is failing. Kudos to gitlab for providing info which helps the market work. Opposite of petty! :)

Thanks mlinksva!

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by enjo »

aikah wrote: post #208
k3n wrote: post #196

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Google hates anything that requires a human's touch, and per the article: > Lately, the administrative load has consisted almost exclusively of abuse management. They see Google Code as a time-sink, and they're probably right, and it's not surprising to me that they'd drop something that is no longer serving it's intended purpose, but instead has negative implications for their model. Keeping it going forward would r…

> I work on Google Code, and we will be putting a service in place to redirect deep links to project homepages, issues, etc. to their new locations. And this is an opt in service, nothing is automated. They could ,AT LEAST, partner with Github or someone else to have the whole thing automated... Seriously... the really want to put 0 money in that stuff,they don't give a damn. There are seriously good projects that wi…

On what planet is shutting down a service, with months and months of notice, evil?

I get it, we all hate Google on HN (for reasons unclear to me) but this is ridiculous. If these projects are truly important than donate some time and move them over yourself. To demand that google invest time and resources into the migration of these migrations or to keeping this running forever is just silly.

Hell tools like https://code.google.com/export-to-github/ even exist.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by zanny »

aikah wrote: post #208
k3n wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google hates anything that requires a human's touch, and per the article: > Lately, the administrative load has consisted almost exclusively of abuse management. They see Google Code as a time-sink, and they're probably right, and it's not surprising to me that they'd drop something that is no longer serving it's intended purpose, but instead has negative implications for their model. Keeping it going forward would r…

> I work on Google Code, and we will be putting a service in place to redirect deep links to project homepages, issues, etc. to their new locations. And this is an opt in service, nothing is automated. They could ,AT LEAST, partner with Github or someone else to have the whole thing automated... Seriously... the really want to put 0 money in that stuff,they don't give a damn. There are seriously good projects that wi…

> that will be lost no question

We have over a year. There will be backups of all of google code made, and even then the Internet Archive will certainly have a backup of all the software projects on it. I doubt any code will be lost - active participation might be, from developers who don't want to relearn how to do things on github.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by rlx0x »

They could atleast work together with the internet archive to conserve it, but no of course not that would require be a bit of an effort, google can't do that, because google doesn't care if thousands of open source projects are going to be lost forever to the world. Don't be evil my ass. Archive team is now our last hope as usual.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by abvdasker »

micro_cam wrote: post #97

Myself and lots of other academics chose google code to host projects that are no longer actively contributed to but still used or of interest to the academic community as building blocks for future research. At the time it seemed like the safest place to leave something. I'll be moving my code and forking a few analytical projects I use appreciate but I hope they would leave the site up in read only or archive mode…

Yes, this is also my biggest concern. I'm working in bioinformatics and smallish open-source repositories created by other bioinformaticians which haven't seen much maintenance but still get used a fair amount (like https://code.google.com/p/biopieces) will probably be the worst casualties from this transition. Guess we'll have to backup those dependencies somewhere else...

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by sebastiank123 »

sebastiank123 wrote: post #226
notsony wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rather than recommending a specific Git hoster such as Github, you should have listed out alternatives... especially as Google Code also supports Subversion and Mercurial.

Subversion & Mercurial? Then actually just RhodeCode ( https://rhodecode.com ) is the only alternative since it supports Git, Mercurial and Subversion. Disclaimer: I am RhodeCode's co-founder.

Kallithea is partly a fork of our old, legacy version of RhodeCode without all the hard work our engineers spent over the last 12 months in turning an open source project into a real, sophisticated enterprise product.

In more than 30,000 engineering hours our team added exclusive Subversion support, 4x better performance and tons of security fixes (all based on enterprise customer feedback), server-side-mergeable pull requests and maybe the world's most flexible and advanced code review system.

Anyway, I recommend to try out both and choose the one you trust your source code and team's productivity more.

P.S.: RhodeCode Enterprise 3 is free for startups and small teams.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by baldfat »

DannyBee wrote: post #32
baldfat wrote: post #17

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If you ever read any of my comments and down votes from Hacker News it was always this. The code on GitHub is a mirror and not an actual GIT repo that is accepting merges and being worked on.

This is not accurate. From a strict numbers perspective, ~95% are git repos accepting merges and being worked on. ~5% are mirrors.

Just saying I got downvoted a ton. Like around 50 or more times for just saying Google is on GitHub.
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