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Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Sorry, it would have been better to say we acquired them, thanks for noting this.

BTW, One of your testimonials on your landing page bashes Gitorious (which no longer exists and is part of your company): > “Gitlab is an excellent option….. not only more user friendly than Gitorious but also easier to install.”

Thanks! I've just removed it https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/www-gitlab-com/commit/64a6309e...

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Anyone else scared of the Github monoculture? I am. For all the touted distributed version control advantages we now have one world global centralized repo. Yeah, yeah, I know you can clone it locally. But of course if all the issues, and testing, and build tools are tied to Github. Isn't it a bit disconcerting? Maybe I am just paranoid. And not saying that Google code was going anywhere, I saw more and more projects…

You're not paranoid, but there are also lots of advantages to centralization, as the article touching on this in Wired says "Having one central location allows people to collaborate more easily" (I'd love to know if anyone has attempted to quantify this).

What to do about it?

* Use other would-be global centralized repo to create competition, eg Gitlab.com (or if you demand 100% FLOSS, maybe notabug.org though it is a very long shot for achieving such centrality)

* Discount centralization benefits and self host, eg using gitlab, gogs (which notabug runs), kallithea, or various other FLOSS code hosting applications

* Work making migration between hosts easier (eg issue and other configuration import/export)

* Work on harder problems of federation among code hosts; distributed bug trackers have been reinvented many times but never taken off, but maybe just the right approach hasn't taken off yet, or maybe there is something in federated social web approaches

* Do one or more of the above and treat Github as marketing and backup for your main platform (or vice versa), analogous to what the indieweb people recommend for dominant social networks http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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BTW, One of your testimonials on your landing page bashes Gitorious (which no longer exists and is part of your company): > “Gitlab is an excellent option….. not only more user friendly than Gitorious but also easier to install.”

more of a comparison than a bash, lets be fair.

We indeed try to focus on extra features and options GitLab has.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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> Currently there is absolutely no reason to use Gitlab. http://techcrunch.com/2014/12/05/to-get-off-russias-blacklis... Since you used the words, "absolutely no reason", here's a counterpoint: as part of an anti-censorship hydra effort. All X is Y. At least one X is not Y. ^-- contradiction :)

> Since you used the words, "absolutely no reason", here's a counterpoint: as part of an anti-censorship hydra effort. I don't see how this is relevant at all? First of all github did not remove that content, it IP blocked it. Secondly what do you think that gitlab would do if they would be hit by this? Do you think it's better for github to go down for Russia entirely? Imagine that would be your proposal for what gi…

You said "absolutely no reason" and I gave you an edge case that invalidates your statement.

Maybe "generally no reason" would be better?

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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post #135

Anyone else scared of the Github monoculture? I am. For all the touted distributed version control advantages we now have one world global centralized repo. Yeah, yeah, I know you can clone it locally. But of course if all the issues, and testing, and build tools are tied to Github. Isn't it a bit disconcerting? Maybe I am just paranoid. And not saying that Google code was going anywhere, I saw more and more projects…

Some monocultures are natural, and may well be in the best interests of everybody. I certainly believe that the dominance of Google in search, Wikipedia in facts, Stack Overflow in programming Q&A, and GitHub in open source project hosting have all made my day-to-day work easier/faster/better.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Ugh. No, not that Google Code is shutting down, per se. The alternatives are better and for active projects there is plenty of time to migrate. What I object to is that the site will only be preserved in read-only mode for 5 months, despite its popularity and the resulting large number of deep links into it on the Web. Why not forever? git, hg, and I believe svn can all provide read-only access (with some bandwidth o…

Google hates anything that requires a human's touch, and per the article:

> Lately, the administrative load has consisted almost exclusively of abuse management.

They see Google Code as a time-sink, and they're probably right, and it's not surprising to me that they'd drop something that is no longer serving it's intended purpose, but instead has negative implications for their model. Keeping it going forward would require even more hands-on humans, so they scrap it.

As for the deep links, one of the Google Code devs did mention[1]:

> I work on Google Code, and we will be putting a service in place to redirect deep links to project homepages, issues, etc. to their new locations.

His comment also contains a link to a wiki with more information on how to opt-in to this service.

http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2015/03/farewell-to-go...

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Does this mean Chromium is also moving away from Google Code? I'm curious how Google plans to migrate almost 500,000 bug reports. I'm expecting Google to purchase GitHub next in order to improve its deficiencies. In particular code search, which is really poor. Google Code search is good, so Google can then apply its search expertise "in-house". https://code.google.com/p/chromium/codesearch Maybe it's just habitual,…

At least for Android bug reports, Google mostly ignores them and closes them all as obsolete every release even though they weren't fixed. So I don't think they'll have any problem ditching Chromium bug reports. I've heard they have an internal bug tracker anyway, so the public ones like b.android.com are just jokes on people who don't know any better.

no, they mostly don't do that. you just think they do because you only hear about it when the internet gets angry about something.

The chromium bugtracker is very active and the chromium developers are very open and helpful on it.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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> Since you used the words, "absolutely no reason", here's a counterpoint: as part of an anti-censorship hydra effort. I don't see how this is relevant at all? First of all github did not remove that content, it IP blocked it. Secondly what do you think that gitlab would do if they would be hit by this? Do you think it's better for github to go down for Russia entirely? Imagine that would be your proposal for what gi…

You said "absolutely no reason" and I gave you an edge case that invalidates your statement. Maybe "generally no reason" would be better?

Nothing in the world is absolute. However so far I have not hear any non nebulous reasons why an Open Source project should be on gitlab.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Obviously GitHub is much larger, but some projects are moving to GitLab, such as GnuTLS https://twitter.com/GnuTLS/status/573155639683248128 Bitbucket is also mentioned even though they don't have a lot of public projects. GitLab is open source, has a great interface, many features (protected branches, git-annex support) and we offer unlimited (private) repositories on GitLab.com

GnuTLS did not move, they were moved because Gitorious got acquired by gitlab.

We did not move anybody. People imported their repo's themselves. Another project that moved is F-droid https://gitlab.com/u/fdroid that was before the acquisition.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Hi Chris, GitLab CEO here. What do you think about mentioning Gitlab.com as an alternative for people to move to? It has unlimited (private) projects and unlimited collaborators. It is based the open source GitLab project.

We use GitLab internally, and it's an amazing piece of software. It's open source, easy to setup and is pretty robust.

I would love to see the option to move from Google code to GitLab.

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