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If recent trends are anything to go by, this will lead in ten years to an oversupply of engineers and then an attendant rise in unemployment and dip in wages, like what's starting to happen with nursing.
So you're saying this is a good time to start a law career?
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Actually, engineering students statistically score highest on the LSAT out of any undergraduate degree
I'm not surprised. The "logic" section of the LSAT (traditionally said to be the hardest part of the test) is much easier if you know some computer science/discrete math. A lot of questions can be quickly parsed into some sort of constraint satisfaction problem, and using the right tool (drawing truth tables/constructing a directed acyclic graph) means you can get to the answer much faster.[1] Since the LSAT is a tim…
The GRE verbal is a great predictor of success in CS grad school and any kind of science grad school because it's so heavily g-loaded. Verbal scores are very hard to game and correlate well with raw IQ even when people try to study for the test and artificially improve scores. Antonyms, vocabulary, and reading comprehension are very good measures of the same mental ability that deep cutting edge research requires.
Of course, that doesn't work for non-fluent English speakers.
Another factor to consider here is a rise (if any) in engineering undergraduate degrees. I know that grad engineering degrees to law degrees seems like more of an apples-to-apples comparison, but there's a big difference. A history major who goes to law school goes from not lawyer to lawyer (assuming he or she passes the bar). Engineering graduate students, on the other hand, almost always have a background in their…
Actually, engineering students statistically score highest on the LSAT out of any undergraduate degree
With that in mind, it's not as if all students from all majors are required to take the exam- the data represents those people that self-selected to take the lsat.
http://www.potsdam.edu/academics/AAS/Phil/upload/LSAT-Scores...
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Tangential, but I'm curious: your comment seems to imply that that are now fewer CS degrees issued per year than in 1985. Is that what you meant? Can you point me to the numbers?
Yeah, that seems very unlikely. The population was lower, tech wasn't mainstream, and being a nerd was the opposite of fashionable.
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Believe it or not, there are already large swathes of people that get engineering degrees because it is a good paying, stable, respected job. Probably 1/3 of my graduating class would have said their primary motivation for getting an engineering degree was the solid salary.
Historically, the solid pay and good prospects have been a primary driving criterion for people going into engineering. The Silicon Valley idealists who want to "change the world with food delivery" is the new phenomenon, not the other way around.
If recent trends are anything to go by, this will lead in ten years to an oversupply of engineers and then an attendant rise in unemployment and dip in wages, like what's starting to happen with nursing.
So you're saying this is a good time to start a law career?
One thing these stats don't capture is the effective tuition charged by law schools. Schools are raising sticker prices, but handing out more scholarships. From discussions with someone who tracks these things, effective law school tuitions have been dropping. Law school attendance for most students is being subsidized by richer students and by those who haven't figured out that law school at sticker is generally a s…
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Historically, the solid pay and good prospects have been a primary driving criterion for people going into engineering. The Silicon Valley idealists who want to "change the world with food delivery" is the new phenomenon, not the other way around.
Or as HBO put it, "making the world a better place through minimal message-oriented transport layers."
Law has changed since the 80s and 90s. The profession was much more of a bloodsport. Less cases settled, far less went to arbitration, and more money was spent when a case did go to trial. Nowadays the culture has shifted almost completely to keeping costs down and settling things outside of court -- either settling outright or through a mediated arbitration (much less expensive). It's no surprise to me that law scho…
I interned in a law firm my entire senior year and now hold a BA with majors in Government and Philosophy. These experiences would leave me well primed to go to law school which was my original intention after graduation. After spending time in the firm however it is really eye opening to see how the business is rapidly changing. There is an over supply of young lawyers these days for a number of reason. First, there…
We'd better improve our interview techniques before the flood of lawyer-like engineers who are only in it for the money arrives. My recommendation- avoid brain-teasers that can be crammed for. Assess based on open-source contributions, which show craftsmanship, architecture, and love of coding.