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Re: The new MacBook

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Post by hsitz »

thomasfoster96 wrote: post #779

I'm currently looking for a new laptop, which will probably be a Mac, given I'm not familiar with using Linux nor have I liked using Windows lately. Looking at the pricing for this, I can't see much of a reason for why I'd get this over a Macbook Air or Macbook Pro w/ Retina. Using Australian prices - This - $1799 11" Air - $1249 13" Air - $1399 13" Retina - $1799 (I've seen $1599 in authorised reseller stores) 13" P…

In the U.S. the cheapest Mac Air with 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD is the 11", which sells for $1,199. That's compared to the new Macbook's $1,299. That they barely differ in price is precisely the thing that struck me most.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by alain94040 »

dang wrote: post #192

We changed the url from http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/09/apple-introduces-a-reinvent... to Apple's page for this product, since it was making the front page repeatedly and there shouldn't be two threads on the same thing.

HN really needs a feature where you can combine multiple links into one discussion. Techmeme does this very well.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by kenrikm »

tokenrove wrote: post #729
kenrikm wrote: post #615

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Because they are trying to nudge you into upgrading. Lets face it, the fact that Apple ruthlessly kills hardware after 3-4 years is both a benefit to Apple (sells more hardware) and developers (don't have to support old versions of the OS). Though, as a consumer sometimes it makes it difficult to know if you're buying a dud (iPod Touch 4th gen) vs something that'll have a long happy life (iPad 2nd Gen)

It's awful for consumers, though. And for developers, it's not great, either, because you end up having to support a customer on an old version of OS X, for example, which means keeping a suitably old environment around just so you can keep your builds compatible, or jump through all kinds of hoops. I don't feel like this is a good thing to encourage in an industry that already has more than enough churn as it is.

I've never run into that issue, ~90% of our users are on iOS8 or above. With iOS you can safely support the current version and last version while only pissing off 2-3% of the customers which is exceptional compared to most platforms. I also do Android development, Don't even get me started on what a mess that is, complete opposite..

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by frik »

jsz0 wrote: post #857
frik wrote: post #853

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Apple planned to replace its very old HFS(+) filesystem with ZFS, there were even dev beta releases and demonstration to the media. But OSX 10.5(?) didn't ship with ZFS. So OSX is stuck with an decades old filesystem almost as basic and bad as FAT32, where Windows has NTFS (and ReFS, ExFAT), Linux has Btrfs/XFS/extfs4 and *BSD/Solaris has ZFS.

OSX has ZFS via OpenZFS.

But it's a big difference, if it's an optional driver or the default one. Currently, on OSX and iOS most users are simply using the default installation and are stuck with HDF+.

One can install optional filesystems on every OS. Like NTFS on Linux and OSX. ZFS on Linux, Ext4 on Windows.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by ptx »

nsxwolf wrote: post #561
SiVal wrote: post #509

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Because you can't really tell how well software is working when looking at the device edge-on, and that's apparently the way Apple looks at them most of the time. I mean this more metaphorically than literally, but I'm so tired of complaints about the ridiculously primitive Finder being met with, "the edge of the iMac now appears even thinner, now that we've repositioned formerly convenient connectors and such into a…

Curious - what do Finder complainers consider the gold standard of file browsers that Finder should aspire to be? I do most of my file management at the command line so I don't experience the pain of Finder very often, and I've generally been able to get Finder to do what I want without much fuss. Windows Explorer is, to me, a painful experience (but its 1980s DOS command line is so much worse) I've found the various…

The fundamental problem with the Mac OS X Finder is that it tried to combine the NeXTSTEP File Viewer with the classic Mac OS Finder, but the designs are complete opposites of each other, so the combination doesn't really work.

In NeXTSTEP, as well as in Norton Commander and its clones, the view properties are associated with the window. You create a window, set the window size, adjust the sort order, set some filter and so on – and then you can visit any number of folders with those view settings applied. Another window can offer a different view of the same folder at the same time. This is the "browser" approach.

In the classic Finder, and in the OS/2 Workplace Shell, the view properties are associated with the folder. A folder can only be open in one window – the window is the folder. Other folders open in other windows. Any particular folder will always open its window in the same position and the same size (and in OS/2 have the same window background and various other properties). This makes it easier to find things (for reasonable amounts of files) because they stay where you put them and have the appearance you give them. This is the "spatial" approach.

If these very different approaches are combined they break down. If you try to use it as a browser, individual folders can suddenly override your view configuration. If you try to use it as a spatial file manager, folders will have their settings mangled any time you accidentally open two views of the same thing.

Windows Explorer has the same problem.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by mrinterweb »

rsynnott wrote: post #917
mrinterweb wrote: post #697

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Considering the $10,000+ price tag on the gold Apple Watch, I'm surprised their gold MacBook isn't priced for high-end luxury consumer.

The gold Macbook is coloured gold-ish. The gold watch is made of solid gold. It's a bit different.

I know, but I'm just saying that Apple is has a substantial markup on the gold watch so why not for it's gold colored laptop. Not unless their gold watch actually contains 8.3 ounces of gold, at the current price of gold ((10000 - 350) / 1163.14). Perhaps Apple's gold watch is much larger and much more heavy than the standard version.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by iso8859-1 »

irrelative wrote: post #585
bhayden wrote: post #563

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I wonder with an SDD and no fan if that means there are no moving parts at all anymore. I can't think of anything else that would have a motor. I guess the vibration in the touchpad?

I believe the camera has focusing components that move as well, but I think they're very close to having nothing moving.

Loudspeaker? :P

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by RexRollman »

benologist wrote: post #635
RexRollman wrote: post #448

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I'm not saying you're wrong but I personally haven't any issues with OS X Yosemite.

Yesterday was the first time this year I was able to open pages from youtube on the first try instead of over a 20 - 40 minute process of refreshing, resetting wifi, resetting router etc trying to get complete page loads with playing video. I had entire days where Skype text messages was the only internet access I had. Apple's forums have ten thousands of posts on people's wifi being ruined like this for this entire…

Without a doubt, some people have issues, but I don't think you can gage the overall reliability of a product based solely on a support forum. No one is going there just to post that their system is running properly.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by neatoincognito »

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #285
jkot wrote: post #30

I am bit disappointed. Dell has similar sized laptop, with bigger display, smaller bezel and higher resolution. http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-13-9343-laptop/pd

This. I was really hoping they would drop that bezel to make the new Mac absolutely awesome looking. Honestly I would have rather they done that than everything else they did. I was also hoping for a touch screen. While I don't use it a ton on my Windows machines with a touch screen I constantly finding myself to use it for scrolling.

If Apple went with a smaller bezel, they couldn't have a full-size keyboard.
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