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Re: The new MacBook

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Post by bobbles »

sliverstorm wrote: post #592
sytelus wrote: post #518

I'm actually quite unhappy with this obsession with "thinner and lighter" mantra which throws away features at the expense of saving 0.01mm of thickness. These new computers don't have interfaces like Ethernet, DVD player, common interfaces for video. All of these is supposed to be outdated while it is very clearly not. You can't even do trivial upgrades like RAM let alone putting in new bigger SSD. These things are…

There are still many laptops with all the interfaces and features, right? Beauty of choice, and all that.

People are acting like Apple reps are travelling around soldering all their ports closed

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by mhuffman »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #141

No new 15" MacBook Pro? I wonder when that will be coming.

Thank you! It is hard for me to believe that macbooks (that receive all the attention) are always getting the royal treatment, when macbook pros are more expensive, and are (regularly) paid for by a business. Furthermore, my niece in college does not need a new macbook as often as I (as a professional) need a new macbook pro!

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by bobbles »

gcr wrote: post #680

Is this laptop aimed for the high-end Macbook Pro users, or is it poised as the spiritual successor to the Macbook Air? According to the tech specs, this has the slowest processor (1.1 Ghz Intel Core M) of all of their models and the oldest graphics card (Intel HD Graphics 5300). Granted -- I know I shouldn't commit the cardinal sin of "The number is lower so it's worse." My words aren't meaningful. I guess I'm just…

As a non-mac owner, this and the 5K retina imac are the first machines to really make me consider the switch.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by xlayn »

SiVal wrote: post #509
nkoren wrote: post #261

This is a beautiful machine. Once again, Apple excels at hardware. But what the living hell is going wrong with Apple's desktop software? OS X and Apple's applications suite have been getting steadily worse with every release. Look at the App store: the latest releases of OS X, iPhoto, iMovie, Pages, and Numbers are (in stark contrast to earlier versins) all rated at 2.5/5 stars, with the plurality being 1-star revie…

Because you can't really tell how well software is working when looking at the device edge-on, and that's apparently the way Apple looks at them most of the time. I mean this more metaphorically than literally, but I'm so tired of complaints about the ridiculously primitive Finder being met with, "the edge of the iMac now appears even thinner, now that we've repositioned formerly convenient connectors and such into a…

Right in so many points: "Now, it's all about the style": that's right, it's an accessory, it's the long awaited iPad pro + keyboard, a glorified browser for your social network, check photos and look chick and trending.

Why are we here? People have decided with their pockets, Apple is now the biggest company in the history of humanity. Don't get me wrong, Apple has done a lot of stuff right, the amount of design and engineering behind the original iPhone it's incredible, and yes maybe a lot of the technology already existed but they polished the combined products until they got something that worked in such a nice fashion; that's the "magic" behind their products but from there is downhill.

iPad: bigger iphone. iPad mini: mini- bigger iphone. MacBook Air: let's trade some some performance and take away the capability of upgrade the machine in a pursuit of a more thinner machine. MacBook: let's take the least powerful CPU from Intel (the reason behind the no-fan design"), cripple the typing experience, take away all upgrade-ability, cripple the semantics of touch from the track pad, take away all the ports.... WTF.. charge for the hub... and make it more expensive.....

But I think the problem is not Apple but the people buying their products and how they use them. It's a super glorified version of "I belong to the better group" psychology.

now that I type all this... it could make some sense to start looking all this not as a computer... or apple as a computer and software company but a boutique selling accessories.

I would love to tell you that thinkpads still make sense but the "no leds" and "screw keyboard" may prove me wrong.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by cheshire137 »

No MagSafe, a single port for USB, more expensive than an Air with worse specs. If I wanted a simple machine just for browsing the web, I'd use my iPad. I don't know who this laptop is aimed at.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by nilkn »

SiVal wrote: post #509
nkoren wrote: post #261

This is a beautiful machine. Once again, Apple excels at hardware. But what the living hell is going wrong with Apple's desktop software? OS X and Apple's applications suite have been getting steadily worse with every release. Look at the App store: the latest releases of OS X, iPhoto, iMovie, Pages, and Numbers are (in stark contrast to earlier versins) all rated at 2.5/5 stars, with the plurality being 1-star revie…

Because you can't really tell how well software is working when looking at the device edge-on, and that's apparently the way Apple looks at them most of the time. I mean this more metaphorically than literally, but I'm so tired of complaints about the ridiculously primitive Finder being met with, "the edge of the iMac now appears even thinner, now that we've repositioned formerly convenient connectors and such into a…

Apple's slowly becoming a fashion company. I'm being only slightly facetious.

I'm not an Apple hater despite saying that. If anything, I usually prefer Apple products over the competitors, and I've used iMacs or Macbooks for years now. But, between the $17k gold Apple Watch and the recent updates to the Macbook Air and iPad lines, it seems clear to me where Tim Cook is taking the company. And I don't think Apple as a fashion company is even a bad thing, it's just a transformation that some will like and others will resent.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by gcr »

rareEarth wrote: post #383

I can't believe the new MacBook has no internal fans. [0] Fanless architecture The new MacBook is the first Mac notebook ever without a fan. Since the Intel Core M chip draws only 5 watts of power and therefore generates less heat, no fan or heat pipe is required. Instead, the logic board is seated on top of an anisotropic graphite sheet, which helps disperse any heat that is generated out to the sides, all while you…

This machine also has a weaker CPU. I'm guessing it would output less heat.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by [deleted] »

rareEarth wrote: post #383

I can't believe the new MacBook has no internal fans. [0] Fanless architecture The new MacBook is the first Mac notebook ever without a fan. Since the Intel Core M chip draws only 5 watts of power and therefore generates less heat, no fan or heat pipe is required. Instead, the logic board is seated on top of an anisotropic graphite sheet, which helps disperse any heat that is generated out to the sides, all while you…

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Re: The new MacBook

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Post by tokenrove »

kenrikm wrote: post #615
Throwaway90283 wrote: post #571

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Random story from last week, and my experience with Apple software. I don't use Apple products too often, but I was downloading some apps for a family members ipod touch 4g (latest model being 5g). The 4g only supports up to iOS 6, and nearly every app I tried downloading on the device gave an error saying it required iOS 7 and it couldn't be installed. I thought that was strange, I used most of these apps before on…

Because they are trying to nudge you into upgrading. Lets face it, the fact that Apple ruthlessly kills hardware after 3-4 years is both a benefit to Apple (sells more hardware) and developers (don't have to support old versions of the OS). Though, as a consumer sometimes it makes it difficult to know if you're buying a dud (iPod Touch 4th gen) vs something that'll have a long happy life (iPad 2nd Gen)

It's awful for consumers, though. And for developers, it's not great, either, because you end up having to support a customer on an old version of OS X, for example, which means keeping a suitably old environment around just so you can keep your builds compatible, or jump through all kinds of hoops.

I don't feel like this is a good thing to encourage in an industry that already has more than enough churn as it is.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by jpgvm »

azinman2 wrote: post #593

So in switching from thunderbolt to usb-c, I'm wondering about the technical reasons. They went from 20-40g/s of thunderbolt to 5 in this version of usb-c, which is quite a reduction by itself. My understanding of previous USB specs is that USB is poll (and thus creates a lot of CPU load), versus firewire which was push. Is USB 3.1 now finally push?

They weren't delivering power over Thunderbolt (though technically possible I think).

By moving to USB-C they are now on tech the rest of the world is likely to pickup.

It's also pretty likely that it's more power-efficient than Thunderbolt and less complicated. (The Intel Thunderbolt controller is a mean looking IC that gets pretty hot)

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