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Re: The new MacBook

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Post by Grazester » Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 7:21 PM UTC

ghostly_s wrote: post #223

Grazester wrote: post #162

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That is not going to happen. Apple licenses out the use of its connectors for docking stations and other accessory usage. If they just drop the lightening connector on the iphone this soon after implementing it, I dont think manufacturers of these accessories would very happy about that.

Why would Apple start giving a flying f about accessory manufacturers?

Because they are the ones that support Apple's products and pay a license to do so. If you change standards every Monday morning then these manufacturer would have to retool their products which would no doubt cost them.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by DIVx0 » Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 7:21 PM UTC

sfeng wrote: post #154

DIVx0 wrote: post #90

I'm really sorry to see magsafe go. Between my dogs and kids I would have gone though a dozen macbooks without magsafe. I sincerely hope this no magsafe or single port thing goes into the MBPs as well.

This is always so interesting to me, because as a person without dogs or children, the magsafe adapter has only ever been annoying. It seems like the world is divided into people with small creatures who love the magsafe, and people without who don't get it.

Having been a long time laptop user, I've had several incidents where one of my large dogs get wrapped up in a cord and runs off with either my computer crashing to the floor or me hanging onto it while the charging pin breaks or bends. It is a big annoyance when that happens with magsafe still, I'll have to get up and fetch the cord again.. but i'd trade that annoyance with the alternative any day.

This new MacBook has nice battery life and if I had one I can see using it without needing to plug it in while i'm on the couch or something.

What worries me though is a precedent being set. I am not in the market for a MacBook or MacBook Air, however I do buy MacBook Pros. I do everything on them from software dev, video editing, playing games. Much of that use is not battery friendly so I will _need_ to plug those in while i'm on the couch or in a high traffic area. I love the idea of USB-C I just hope Apple keeps MagSafe around for form factors they are not trying to reduce to sheets of paper thickness.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by mattdotc » Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 7:21 PM UTC

geoelectric wrote: post #75

codezero wrote: post #50

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I followed the link hoping I could point out how wrong you are. Nope, that's a pretty beautiful laptop. Thin, light, great screen, etc... In the end, you can look at the 12 inch MacBook as being a new notebook for people who care about running Mac OS/don't want to switch to Windows. It's a big deal because the Dell isn't an option most people want to consider :)

I have to admit that, even as a "no Windows" person at this point, I'm a little on the fence about this vs. waiting for the Ubuntu version of the New XPS 13. So Dell's got at least that much going for them.

I had no idea they were still doing that. The last time I purchased a laptop for personal use was the ~2007 Inspiron 1420n Ubuntu Edition. I generally prefer to work on desktops, but having the option for portability is nice.

I still actually used that laptop until recently. Now I'm in the market and have been eying the XPS 13 and waiting for details about the Macbook Air.

Any idea/rumors about when the Ubuntu edition will launch?

I'd really like to spend less than a thousand bucks, because I just want something light that I can carry in addition to my work Macbook Pro. I like to use my commute-time on the train for side projects, but I'm concerned about using my work machine for various reasons.

The new offerings from Apple today are certainly appealing, but I'm still on the fence. I don't draw arbitrary allegiances with corporations, so I have no blind brand loyalty...

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by twright » Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 7:21 PM UTC

I think one subtle change is the Apple icon will no longer glow, it's been chromed like it is on all the iDevices. No need to cut a plastic translucent Apple logo => fewer parts? (Furthermore, how will I know what computers people are using in a dark room now?)

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by joesmo » Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 7:21 PM UTC

The specs list 8gb as the only option which is a bit of a disappointment. I was hoping they would offer 16gb and up the rMPBs to 32gb. Otherwise it looks fantastic. I can't wait to try it.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by CHY872 » Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 7:22 PM UTC

This seems like an obvious prelude to ARM CPUs in MacBooks.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by ghostly_s » Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 7:22 PM UTC

retroencabulato wrote: post #181

look_lookatme wrote: post #44

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Presumably accessory manufacturers will create peripherals that allow video out + power at the same time?

And a USB rootkit bundled in for free!

Alert!

It looks like you connected a device from an untrusted Vendor ID which is enumerating as both a [display|power source|input device] and a [USB Mass Storage device]. Do you want to allow this?

[Unmount device] [Allow both]

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by MiguelHudnandez » Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 7:22 PM UTC

proggR wrote: post #95

baddox wrote: post #35

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That's not an uncommon practice. I believe there was a non-Retina Macbook Pro in the product line for quite a while after the introduction of the Retina Macbook Pro.

There's still one left (I just got one). The pricing model of the Retina MBPs is just craziness to me. To get larger storage sizes you have to jump entire model lines to get it, you can't just upgrade storage on them.

For what it's worth, you can replace the SSD in a Retina MacBook Pro with third party hardware.

https://www.google.com/shopping/product/12203990123520892001

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/macbook-pr...

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by josefresco » Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 7:22 PM UTC

grinich wrote: post #219

api wrote: post #217

Why wouldn't they include 4G/LTE in this? It's a serious question. It's basically a "mega-tablet," a high-end mobile device with a "real OS." It's designed for doing serious work in an ultra-portable fashion. I can tether to my phone of course, but this seems like an option they should have considered.

Because they also sell a phone.

...that for an additional fee (paid to your carrier), can broadcast a local wifi signal

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by pionar » Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 7:22 PM UTC

dntrkv wrote: post #163

jkot wrote: post #30

I am bit disappointed. Dell has similar sized laptop, with bigger display, smaller bezel and higher resolution. http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-13-9343-laptop/pd

If you're looking purely at specs, Windows laptops always were the better deal. But only when you use those alternatives do you realize how much further ahead Apple is.

Not really farther at all. Examples? Dell, HP, and Lenovo all have notebooks out there that are as good as any Apple notebook.