> "Why these things in particular is not completely clear, but they're connected with a mix of left- and right-brain skills that seems to be important; hackers need to be able to both reason logically and step outside the apparent logic of a problem at a moment's notice."
What happened to all the non-programmers?
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Re: What happened to all the non-programmers?
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Btw we are working class too, even with those fancy 6 figure salaries... At least I'm not living of off strutting around in my park telling my gardener what to do while stroking a white cat. I don't have employees in my factory solely working for me generating my income while I twiddle my thumbs. I'm actually sitting on a computer working for money every day, so: working class.
>Btw we are working class too, even with those fancy 6 figure salaries... No, we're not. We're the down trodden, continually squeezed middle or upper middle class depending on the cost of living where you are.
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#43This is good advice if you're looking to meet people with different perspectives.
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#44I think this happens in many professions. My wife became a lawyer and now we have a million lawyer friends. This is not so fun at parties.
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#45With that said, I dont really understand confusion with social groups forming of similar people. I understand a desire...even a need...for diversity, but people who like X are naturally going to want to be with other people who like X. Seems pretty natural.
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#46I dunno, I like hanging out with tech people.
Me too, and I'm conflicted about it. I'm well aware that I'm bringing my own preconceptions to the situation, but I continually find it harder to engage people outside of technology. People outside of tech may be more diverse in appearance, but in perspectives, interests and awareness, people working in technology (in my social sphere) tend to be less conformist and more open minded. This may simply be a regression t…
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, there's sort of a weird meme among (for lack of a better word) creative class types that anyone who doesn't use a Macbook for work is literally working 120 hrs in a salt mine to support 8 children as a single parent. It's sort of a noble savage stereotype, but in reality "working class" (even just that name is indicative of this idea) people are still people too -- they do things on their time off, some of them…
Btw we are working class too, even with those fancy 6 figure salaries... At least I'm not living of off strutting around in my park telling my gardener what to do while stroking a white cat. I don't have employees in my factory solely working for me generating my income while I twiddle my thumbs. I'm actually sitting on a computer working for money every day, so: working class.
Looking at the from the outside it seems like a career with a lot more power there really is.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can analyze data and use R and not be a programmer. Less than half of the students in my advanced stats classes at college which used R were CS majors. Granted, for me, knowing how to program made things a lot less frustrating. Spreadsheet programs are built for analysis without deep programming knowledge too.
I am not, nor have I ever been, a CS major. Yet I am a programmer.
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#49I am a programmer that has met most of his friends in bars, raves and other music related places. Guess what? All of my friends are musicians or DJs.
What happened to all the non-musicians?! ... Well, I am simply not going to meet them in the backstage of a show.
I was under the impression that this is general knowledge, no need to make a blog post about it.
Go meet people outside your work circle if you are tired of talking with techies.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can analyze data and use R and not be a programmer. Less than half of the students in my advanced stats classes at college which used R were CS majors. Granted, for me, knowing how to program made things a lot less frustrating. Spreadsheet programs are built for analysis without deep programming knowledge too.
I'd say that by virtue of using R, regardless of your major, you are a programmer.
You're right that everyone who programs is a programmer, but 'programmer' in the article means someone for whom programmer is their job title.