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Re: Huawei Watch

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Post by themagician »

tadfisher wrote: post #48
Osmium wrote: post #37

From the recent New Yorker profile of Jonny Ive: > The shape of the body, meanwhile, barely changed: a rectangle with rounded corners. “When a huge part of the function is lists ”—of names, or appointments—“a circle doesn’t make any sense,” Ive said. Its final form resembles one of Newson’s watches, and the Cartier Santos, from 1904. I think circular watches, in principle, look a lot nicer (certainly in ads), but tha…

Android Wear is specifically designed to avoid this problem. You get a series of glance-able cards that you can swipe through for more information or actions. In maybe one or two places (the Settings app) do you actually get a list view, and they are all one-line entries that fit easily on a round screen. Apple's philosophy toward the smartwatch experience is just different. Android Wear is all about contextual notif…

Still, the actual "usable" area on a circular watch is the square within.

Re: Huawei Watch

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Post by anigbrowl »

Osmium wrote: post #37

From the recent New Yorker profile of Jonny Ive: > The shape of the body, meanwhile, barely changed: a rectangle with rounded corners. “When a huge part of the function is lists ”—of names, or appointments—“a circle doesn’t make any sense,” Ive said. Its final form resembles one of Newson’s watches, and the Cartier Santos, from 1904. I think circular watches, in principle, look a lot nicer (certainly in ads), but tha…

As jwz has it, 'Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail.' I don't think he meant this as an endorsement.

I don't want to read things on my watch - I want one that I just look at it, and where the circular frame is the basis of the design, so it's either a simple thing within that like a face with a call icon, or some sort of radial display like a clock, or some more abstract interfaces like sections or bubbles. It will take a little time for a new visual grammar to emerge.

I window if the pixels are square or hexagonal; probably the former, but the emergence of the latter seems only a matter of time.

Re: Huawei Watch

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Post by nostrademons »

cromwellian wrote: post #51
acqq wrote: post #11

And this picture which is actually on huawei site as the part of the promo (!) illustrates the best why Jony Ive said (1) that "a circle doesn't make any sense" for a smartwatch: http://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/worldwide/huawei-watch/a... ---- 1) http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/23/shape-things-co...

Ive also blasted the Moto X for offering so many customization choices and shipped a watch predicated on massive customization. Let's get one thing straight. Apple lambasts everyone else's designs until they adopt them. Recall that: 1) Mini-tablets are too small to be usable, you'd have to "file down your fingers to use them" 2) Large screen phones are a) things people don't want and b) don't fit your hand properly.…

To be fair, basically every major corporation and most people do this. I can think of a half dozen Google examples just from my time there, and more than a few Facebook ones too.

Re: Huawei Watch

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Post by NeutronBoy »

acqq wrote: post #59
NeutronBoy wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or, more likely, if the picture was designed by a marketing team, rather than the people who built the watch.

When you show something you don't actually have somebody might say you're doing false advertising. Unless you add a disclaimer of sorts.

No, what I mean is that it's most likely the marketing team made a mistake mocking up the image. Not 'the marketing team is inventing features'.

Re: Huawei Watch

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Post by tadfisher »

jenrzzz wrote: post #50
aamar wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Ergonomic button placement": http://imgur.com/Ed57fhj Makes sense. Since it's just a button, not a dial, the higher placement is more convenient for the index finger.

More convenient for the right index finger.

You'd need the "crown" on the left of the watch body, in that case. Although it would be very nice of Google to add an option to flip the interface for users who want to wear the watch "upside-down".

Re: Huawei Watch

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Post by yellowapple »

GuiA wrote: post #31
agumonkey wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they didn't bother rethink/adapt the UI (yet).

Still doesn't make much sense. The vast majority of text humans read is displayed on rectangular surfaces.

So? The vast majority of automobiles humans drive are powered by the combustion of gasoline, but that in and of itself doesn't make a plug-in electric car impractical.

I agree that some things need to be reworked in order to better suit a non-square display, but with the exception of the Facebook demonstration, I thought all the other pictured use-cases were rather brilliant and nice-looking.

Re: Huawei Watch

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Post by cpayne »

cromwellian wrote: post #51
acqq wrote: post #11

And this picture which is actually on huawei site as the part of the promo (!) illustrates the best why Jony Ive said (1) that "a circle doesn't make any sense" for a smartwatch: http://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/worldwide/huawei-watch/a... ---- 1) http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/23/shape-things-co...

Ive also blasted the Moto X for offering so many customization choices and shipped a watch predicated on massive customization. Let's get one thing straight. Apple lambasts everyone else's designs until they adopt them. Recall that: 1) Mini-tablets are too small to be usable, you'd have to "file down your fingers to use them" 2) Large screen phones are a) things people don't want and b) don't fit your hand properly.…

I remember at the time when Steve Jobs said that no one will want a colour iPod. That was the first time I stopped and thought - really???

Re: Huawei Watch

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Post by acqq »

cromwellian wrote: post #51
acqq wrote: post #11

And this picture which is actually on huawei site as the part of the promo (!) illustrates the best why Jony Ive said (1) that "a circle doesn't make any sense" for a smartwatch: http://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/worldwide/huawei-watch/a... ---- 1) http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/23/shape-things-co...

Ive also blasted the Moto X for offering so many customization choices and shipped a watch predicated on massive customization. Let's get one thing straight. Apple lambasts everyone else's designs until they adopt them. Recall that: 1) Mini-tablets are too small to be usable, you'd have to "file down your fingers to use them" 2) Large screen phones are a) things people don't want and b) don't fit your hand properly.…

Do you think Apple is not capable of making the round watch? It's obvious that they really evaluated the possibilities, saw exactly the effect nicely illustrated on the picture, and decided to sacrifice the "roundness" this time. The same people that insisted on rounded corners at the times when it was costly (1) to make them. A concious decision, not something that competition does better. I fully understand you though if you prefer the round smartwatch.

1) 1981: http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Round_Rects_Are_E...

Re: Huawei Watch

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Post by Istof »

acqq wrote: post #11

And this picture which is actually on huawei site as the part of the promo (!) illustrates the best why Jony Ive said (1) that "a circle doesn't make any sense" for a smartwatch: http://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/worldwide/huawei-watch/a... ---- 1) http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/23/shape-things-co...

if in fact it is a problem, it is a software problem
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