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Machine intelligence, part 1

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Re: Machine intelligence, part 1

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I'm more concerned about AI law enforcement. NSA eavesdropping plus an intelligent agent assigned to you is a powerful combination.

Not to be paranoid...just from a realistic standpoint they have to be investing in narrow AI to help themselves sort through and make sense of all that data.

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post #51

I've been studying machine learning lately... Here is my take: Well before we create an ASI (artificial super intelligence) we will have put 90% of the human race out of work with specialized (non conscious) intelligent agents... (for example, self driving cars). I believe that this will be a disaster for our society as it exists today. My hope is that we will adapt and make the necessary societal changes so that we…

There's a nice glimmer of hope, that we may be the slaves that build the interstellar rocket ship monument to our AI god so it can beetle off to a nicer looking star system (or super-massive black hole?) better suited to it (e.g. more energy, more matter.)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about Shane Legg (One of the cofounders of DeepMind)? http://lesswrong.com/lw/691/qa_with_shane_legg_on_risks_from... Quote: Q6: Do possible risks from AI outweigh other possible existential risks, e.g. risks associated with the possibility of advanced nanotechnology? Shane Legg: It's my number 1 risk for this century, with an engineered biological pathogen coming a close second (though I know little about the la…

Shane Legg is known for being a co-founder of DeepMind, in a business role (as I understand). He's a complete nobody as a researcher (is he even an AI researcher? I would be surprised). The big names of deep learning have all taken a vocal stance against the recent end-of-the-world punditry (most notably Yann LeCun and Andrew Ng). Also notable: roboticist Rodney Brooks http://www.rethinkrobotics.com/artificial-intell…

Since you seem to be well-versed in this world, do you know what reputation Nick Bostrom has in these circles?

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I see a lot of very opinionated dissent to even discussing the ideas presented in this article. Let me try to paraphrase in a way that hopefully levels the playing ground and maybe removes some biases or irons out some personal wrinkles we all may have for one reason or another:

It is conceivable that we (humanity) may one day obviate ourselves. Arguably, most of us would prefer that does not happen.

That's it. That's really what I see the discussion being about. I think it's a worthwhile discussion to have.

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I read the essay few times and it is not clear to me what Sam Altman is talking about. I think answers to these questions will help me understand Sam's essay. Can you please help me? 1. What is superhuman machine intelligence (SMI) in the context of this essay ? [edited to add the qualifier] 2. What is the danger from SMI to humans and other current life forms that we are concerned about? It seems to me that concerns…

1. Machine intelligence, traditionally called artificial intelligence, which surpasses human intelligence. 2. Your category (b) is generally the primary concern in these types of discussions. 3. The anecdote of the progress of humanity. Compare the impact of human life/intelligence vs. evolutionary relatives like chimpanzees. I do not know that chimps have hunted species out of existence, for instance, but people hav…

To be fair, I don't think that the reason why Chimps haven't hunted something to extinction doesn't stem from a built in morality or sense of balance with nature.

I'm not trying to put words into your mouth. I was just thinking of some of the new research that shows that primates of all kinds actually commit organized violence that mirror human violence in many, many, ways including war and capital punishment.(It's not a one for one thing, but similar.)

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post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shane Legg is known for being a co-founder of DeepMind, in a business role (as I understand). He's a complete nobody as a researcher (is he even an AI researcher? I would be surprised). The big names of deep learning have all taken a vocal stance against the recent end-of-the-world punditry (most notably Yann LeCun and Andrew Ng). Also notable: roboticist Rodney Brooks http://www.rethinkrobotics.com/artificial-intell…

Since you seem to be well-versed in this world, do you know what reputation Nick Bostrom has in these circles?

There's a very fine line between AI futurist and best-guess scifi writer. Most "AI thought leaders" are scifi writers, not technical researchers. They take preconditions, generate a story, think how it could happen given plausible technology, then market that as soon-to-be-fact.

It's an entertaining society and endlessly fun to read, but still complete fiction based on internal brain states of individuals and not necessarily based on real world interactions.

Also see: Eliezer Yudkowsky — great writer, fun to read, but largely scifi thought experiments masquerading as research.

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I like this debate, It's useful to have it but all these doomsday articles in my opinion are always missing a point, the main one: society comes first, society it;s driving technology not the other way round.

We will not suddenly realize: "oh machines took all our jobs", it's a slow process and it's lead by society, not technology. When technology will create more problems than solutions than it will die or adapt to what the society wants.

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post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shane Legg is known for being a co-founder of DeepMind, in a business role (as I understand). He's a complete nobody as a researcher (is he even an AI researcher? I would be surprised). The big names of deep learning have all taken a vocal stance against the recent end-of-the-world punditry (most notably Yann LeCun and Andrew Ng). Also notable: roboticist Rodney Brooks http://www.rethinkrobotics.com/artificial-intell…

Since you seem to be well-versed in this world, do you know what reputation Nick Bostrom has in these circles?

The only times I've heard him mentioned the impression was negative and that he didn't understand any of the actual science.

People hear "machine learning" and they think it is about machines that know how to think. Machine learning is actually just optimization of high dimensional functions. If this language were used it wouldn't sound as sexy, but no one would think machines are going to take over the world.

AI isn't magic. It's really just clever search techniques and mathematical optimization.

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