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Machine intelligence, part 1

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Re: Machine intelligence, part 1

#21

I'm seriously so sick of hearing about how machine intelligence is going to spell the end of humanity. The amount of gears that would have to fall into place is never mentioned. We aren't close to SMI. Its much more likely that we humans are excelling at dreaming up apocalyptic scenarios, much like we have always done..... The "sloppy, dangerous thinking" is the aversion these types of articles create within the gene…

> Its much more likely that we humans are excelling at dreaming up apocalyptic scenarios, much like we have always done.....

There's always profit in predicting the end of the world.

Re: Machine intelligence, part 1

#22

I read the essay few times and it is not clear to me what Sam Altman is talking about. I think answers to these questions will help me understand Sam's essay. Can you please help me? 1. What is superhuman machine intelligence (SMI) in the context of this essay ? [edited to add the qualifier] 2. What is the danger from SMI to humans and other current life forms that we are concerned about? It seems to me that concerns…

> What is superhuman machine intelligence (SMI) ?

SMI is advanced decision making software that literally eats the world. Think of HAL killing its crew so they don't jeopardize the mission, but on a global scale. Like a stock trading algorithm that determines the best way to maximize profits is to wipe out all human life on the planet or something. --EDIT-- See http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Paperclip_maximizer

> What anecdotes (or evidence) is leading to this concern?

Books, movies, pop culture... plus when all you have are first-world problems, you gotta find something to worry about.

Re: Machine intelligence, part 1

#23

I read the essay few times and it is not clear to me what Sam Altman is talking about. I think answers to these questions will help me understand Sam's essay. Can you please help me? 1. What is superhuman machine intelligence (SMI) in the context of this essay ? [edited to add the qualifier] 2. What is the danger from SMI to humans and other current life forms that we are concerned about? It seems to me that concerns…

First the computers came for our cat meme gifs and I did not speak up. ;)

Re: Machine intelligence, part 1

#24
Machine intelligence does pose an existential threat to humanity. The question is, how does that threat compare to all of the others? Is it greater or worse than climate change, the possibility of a bio-engineered virus, growing income inequality, nuclear war or asteroid strikes? It's true that malevolent machine intelligence has the potential to systematically exterminate all human life in a way that many other threats do not. But the question is, what are the odds of that actually happening?

The first issue is that the development of machine intelligence is wildly unpredictable. We have made incredible progress with statistical optimization and unsupervised categorization in recent years, but we have very little to show in terms of machines that can do human level reasoning, creativity, problem solving or hypothesis formation. One day someone will make a break through in those areas, perhaps solving it all with a single algorithm as the essay suggests. But we have no idea when that day will be and absolutely no evidence that it's getting any closer. sama does note these points and states the timeline for a dangerous level of machine intelligence is outright unknowable. I can only assume that the second part of this piece will explain why we should be concerned about something that might or might not occur at some point in the near or distance future, as opposed to the very real and quantifiable threats that the world is facing today.

The other issue is that we have no idea what the nature of machine intelligence will be. The only model we have for intelligence of any kind is ourselves, and the basic aspects of our reasoning were shaped by millions of years of evolution. Self-preservation, seeking pleasure and avoiding pain, a desire to control scarce resources...these were all things that evolved in the brains of fish that lived hundreds of millions of years ago. They aren't necessarily the product of logic and reason, but random mutations that helped some organisms survive long enough to produce offspring. A machine intelligence will start completely from scratch, guided by none of that evolutionary history. Who knows how it will think and see its place in the world? If someone explicitly programs it to think like a human, and it cannot change that programming of its own accord, it might indeed decide to think and act like a sci-fi villain. But it seems like the most likely outcome is completely unpredictable behavior, if it chooses to interact with us as a species at all.

This Superintelligence book has sparked a meme among very smart people. That's just how culture works, I guess. Some ideas catch on among certain groups and others don't. But I can't wait for the technical intelligentsia to move on to something else so that we can get back to the business of making stupid machines that are incredibly good at optimization and prediction. The world has a lot of real and pressing problems, here and now, that affect lives in a negative way. Hopefully we can use statistics to do more with less, and bring relief to those who need it instead of worrying about what-if scenarios and unanswerable questions.

Re: Machine intelligence, part 1

#25

I'm seriously so sick of hearing about how machine intelligence is going to spell the end of humanity. The amount of gears that would have to fall into place is never mentioned. We aren't close to SMI. Its much more likely that we humans are excelling at dreaming up apocalyptic scenarios, much like we have always done..... The "sloppy, dangerous thinking" is the aversion these types of articles create within the gene…

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Re: Machine intelligence, part 1

#26
I am getting a bit tired about this trend of articles about SMI and its dangers. We don't have (not even remotely) a sentient machine yet.

If any, we should be worry about an accident (like a bug in a high frequency trading bot that would make the financial industry collapse) but we are so far away from sentient machines that those discussion feel more like a Sci-fi talks.

Re: Machine intelligence, part 1

#27

I read the essay few times and it is not clear to me what Sam Altman is talking about. I think answers to these questions will help me understand Sam's essay. Can you please help me? 1. What is superhuman machine intelligence (SMI) in the context of this essay ? [edited to add the qualifier] 2. What is the danger from SMI to humans and other current life forms that we are concerned about? It seems to me that concerns…

1. Machine intelligence, traditionally called artificial intelligence, which surpasses human intelligence.

2. Your category (b) is generally the primary concern in these types of discussions.

3. The anecdote of the progress of humanity. Compare the impact of human life/intelligence vs. evolutionary relatives like chimpanzees. I do not know that chimps have hunted species out of existence, for instance, but people have. We have also incidentally wiped out populations in efforts to make our lives better (via things like leveling forests, etc.)

Re: Machine intelligence, part 1

#29

Sam Altman is an entitled bore-fest. This is the kind of thing I would expect to read in a high school magazine.

Hey! This isn't cool. I can't downvote you. but i wish i could

The personal attack is totally unnecessary but his assessment of the quality of the article and general caliber of discussion and analysis is spot on.
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