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Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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Post by fudged71 »

untog wrote: post #96

I'll admit to being disappointed. After the Pebble Steel I thought they were going to take appearances seriously, but the Pebble Time barely even looks better than the original Pebble. Maybe if they make a Pebble Time Steel it'll be the one for me (and the sales figures suggest plenty do not agree with me). That said, kudos to them for getting it out and being independent competition to Android Wear and the Apple Wat…

Just wait for it. In the coming weeks we will probably see a steel version added to the Kickstarter

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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georgeecollins wrote: post #42
simplyluke wrote: post #2

The main value prop over the Apple Watch and current Android wear appears to be the battery life. They're advertising over 7 days on a charge, which is certainly better than whatever the Apple Watch will be in terms of battery life. I just worry about the market for apps after the introduction of apple's watch around the same time.

ePaper is very different than the displays that are in the Apple Watch and various Wear devices. You can see it in bright sunlight. It can be a big drawback, particularly for a fitness device, to need to shade your display to read it.

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Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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Post by splintercell »

angryasian wrote: post #222
georgeecollins wrote: post #49

What I think is good about this is that they are thinking of a new paradigm for UI on a wearable. For Android Wear devices it feels like Google just decided that voice was going to take care of UI, and no decisions about physical controls needed to be made. But there are two problems: voice isn't that reliable, and more importantly, there are a lot of situations where you want to use your watch but not talk to it.

I can't disagree more. 4 big buttons in comparison to a touch screen is not new and actually backwards.

At least I don't have to take my hands out of my glove in this cold to operate it.

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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Post by acomjean »

aareet wrote: post #258

I'm glad they went with ePaper, but I think I'll hold off until the battery life has developed to be quite a bit better (lasts a few months on a single charge?). The biggest value prop to having information on a watch to me is that I never have to think about charging my watch so I can always rely on it having the information I need. I don't recall ever replacing a watch battery and I'm looking forward to when smartw…

The color ePaper thing is interesting to me.

If its like my brothers older sony reader (b/w ePaper), the refresh rate was slow but the battery lasted a long long time. If I remember correctly it only uses power when the display changes.

I guess the minus would be its harder to read in the dark. If the refresh rate is too slow it might be annoying but I for a watch I don't think its going to be a problem.

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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Post by fudged71 »

joosters wrote: post #163

What happened to 'Kickstarter is not a store' - https://www.kickstarter.com/blog/kickstarter-is-not-a-store ? Offering multiple quantities of a reward is prohibited. Hardware and Product Design projects can only offer rewards in single quantities or a sensible set (some items only make sense as a pair or as a kit of several items, for instance). The development of new products can be especially complex for creators a…

Indiegogo started making a lot of money due to that differentiation, because you could sell many items on Indiegogo.

My understanding is that the Kickstarter policy came in BECAUSE of the original Pebble selling packs of several devices. It's ironic that the policy was reversed and the same company is using that same "multiple products" trick to make a new record on the platform.

Ultimately it DOES change the Kickstarter brand. New projects use "Kickstarter" in their press releases and they're set to the same bar of selling millions of items. I feel like the whole concept of "a kickstarter" is no longer what it used to mean.

They should have stuck with the "Kickstarter is not a store" policy.

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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Post by TeMPOraL »

Infinitesimus wrote: post #327
TeMPOraL wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, thank marketing for you being impressed. It's actually the only issue I have with Pebble. They are all amazing and unicorns, but why on Earth intentionally confuse people to think they're buying an e-ink display? It's not e-ink, it's e-paper, a fancy name for something that is not the thing that uses zero energy when not updating.

The site in the OP explicitly states that it is an e-paper display, and so does the video....

So it was with the original Pebble, and then, just like now, most people don't know the difference. "E-paper" is commonly understood as "the stuff Kindles are made of".

I actually asked them about it during the original Pebble campaign, because you couldn't really tell if the display is e-ink even though they strongly implied so. I don't recall getting any response.

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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Post by maxbrown »

fragmede wrote: post #304
DenisM wrote: post #287

As I look at the total pledge amount climbing higher and higher, at $5.5m presently, I can't help but think that VCs and bankers got completely cut out of the "deal". It used to be that you had to please a whole bunch of finance guys to get anything done, but this time they weren't even invited to the table. It's a big change. I also keep thinking about other ways in which the financial sector can get disintermediate…

That's a cute viewpoint, but the mere mortals get screwed, same as always. Let's say a VC invests $2.4 million dollars in a company. Let's assume the company does well and sells out to Facebook for $2.3 billion. The VC, being wise in the ways of finance, profits handsomely from that $2.3 billion. What if, instead of a VC investing $2.4 million dollars, it was a large collection of mortals each investing a small sum,…

You are essentially pre-ordering one of their watches for a $20 discount. What's there to complain about? Sure, in unproven items you are gambling somewhat (they may not deliver) but you should evaluate that risk when you put your money in.

None of us think we are buying equity when we put money in, and yet clearly 31,000+ people are willing to put their money in to pre-order the product without equity. Good for that company, that they have that level of pre-order demand, no?

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