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Introducing Pebble Time

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Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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Post by baddox »

TillE wrote: post #170
joosters wrote: post #163

What happened to 'Kickstarter is not a store' - https://www.kickstarter.com/blog/kickstarter-is-not-a-store ? Offering multiple quantities of a reward is prohibited. Hardware and Product Design projects can only offer rewards in single quantities or a sensible set (some items only make sense as a pair or as a kit of several items, for instance). The development of new products can be especially complex for creators a…

Honestly, that seems like a completely arbitrary policy which serves no real purpose. In general I'd stay the hell away from hardware projects on Kickstarter, but in this case Pebble has a proven track record of delivering a quality product in a reasonable time frame. I assume that gives them a little more leeway when Kickstarter is approving their campaign.

> Pebble has a proven track record of delivering a quality product in a reasonable time frame

Perhaps I'm remembering this incorrectly, but wasn't the Pebble a textbook example of significant production delays for a Kickstarter hardware project? I'm pretty sure I knew someone who hadn't received his watch from Kickstarter many months after the supposed delivery date, while at the same time he could have gone to Best Buy and bought one.

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Post by feld »

myth_buster wrote: post #202
feld wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why can't you just ... issue voice commands to your phone?

Because at home I don't carry it around. Outside, I would have to get it out of my pockets to be able to access it. Also in inclement weather a cheap/water proof watch is less of a risk.

What's the range on that smartwatch before it is disconnected from your phone?

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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Post by GuiA »

jorjordandan wrote: post #242
freehunter wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basically the only things I use voice commands for is "set a timer for..." while cooking or "remind me at noon to..." when I need a time alert. Oh, and saying "What's my name" and having Siri respond "Your name is , but since we're friends I get to call you Captain James T Kirk". But that's just personal amusement.

Huh. When I ask my name, it says "Your name is . That's what you told me, anyway." Seems a lot more suspicious of me for some reason..

It's like a tamagotchi- you have to take care of it everyday for a bond to develop.

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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Post by Navarr »

wvenable wrote: post #248
Navarr wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you... Do you just desire UI to not be animated at all? that the next item in that list just appears at the top?

Fast animations are good. I have a jailbroken iPhone and the first thing I do is turn off a lot of the animations and the phone is super-snappy compared to stock. Whenever I use someone else's iPhone, it's just so painful to switch apps and navigate around. So I understand not wanting to watch some stupid animation over and over instead of just getting to the point. But some animations are helpful for seeing when thi…

It's just interesting seeing someone promote the precise opposite of the now ever so popular Material Design thought of basically using animations everywhere to convey motion, meaning, and hierarchy.

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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Post by gonzo »

TillE wrote: post #170
joosters wrote: post #163

What happened to 'Kickstarter is not a store' - https://www.kickstarter.com/blog/kickstarter-is-not-a-store ? Offering multiple quantities of a reward is prohibited. Hardware and Product Design projects can only offer rewards in single quantities or a sensible set (some items only make sense as a pair or as a kit of several items, for instance). The development of new products can be especially complex for creators a…

Honestly, that seems like a completely arbitrary policy which serves no real purpose. In general I'd stay the hell away from hardware projects on Kickstarter, but in this case Pebble has a proven track record of delivering a quality product in a reasonable time frame. I assume that gives them a little more leeway when Kickstarter is approving their campaign.

> but in this case Pebble has a proven track record of delivering a quality product in a reasonable time frame.

Hardly.

http://readwrite.com/2013/07/09/why-i-cancelled-my-pebble-sm...

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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Post by iblaine »

"At anytime up until your watch has shipped, you may request a full refund"

Nice. I own a pebble and pebble steel. Hardly use them but the full refund policy won me over.

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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Post by egypturnash »

eloisant wrote: post #78
mbesto wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is way more common than you think. The most successful kickstarter campaigns usually have their demand already assessed (the number I've heard is usually 25%) before launching.

So you're saying successful "campaigns" are simply the ones using kickstarter as a pre-ordering platform? That's very sad.

Why is this sad?

For independent comics creators, drawing the book then going to Kickstarter to handle pre-orders is a great thing. I've done it twice and will be doing it again soon; it's a great model that lets you generate some excitement around a book release, and maybe get some new fans as well. If you go to a comics convention, I can bet that a lot of the books you'll find being hawked by their creators were funded via Kickstarter, with roughly that model. You can only say "here is a pitch, give me lots of $$$ to spend a couple years making it" if you have one hell of a track record, and a huge fan base.

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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Post by aareet »

I'm glad they went with ePaper, but I think I'll hold off until the battery life has developed to be quite a bit better (lasts a few months on a single charge?). The biggest value prop to having information on a watch to me is that I never have to think about charging my watch so I can always rely on it having the information I need. I don't recall ever replacing a watch battery and I'm looking forward to when smartwatches reach that kind of longevity.

Considering my Kindle lasts over a month on a single charge, I'd be thrilled to have an e-ink watch that showed me a listing of notifications and the time that lasts just as long.

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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Post by pconner »

higherpurpose wrote: post #28
pconner wrote: post #14

The refresh rate on the e-paper is impressive. I remember some first-generation ereaders that required a whole second to refresh a page.

Pebble has never used E-ink, despite all the confusion in the media (not that Pebble was in a hurry to rectify it, since it played to its advantage). The color one doesn't look like E-ink now either. They used some transflective PixelQi-like displays in the past, but not sure if they're using an upgraded version of that now (with color!) or something like Mirasol, and they are just naming it the same.

Damn, that's really misleading. I've always thought E-ink would be good for smart watches, because it shows text well, has great daytime visibility, and is power-efficient.
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