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Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by shmerl »

Scarbutt wrote: post #154
shmerl wrote: post #140

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Fonts configuration is always rather subjective. I often don't like defaults. This applies to any system. Good ones allow greater flexibility. Bad ones assume they know best and force "best defaults" without any way to improve them.

Is not about font taste, is about brokenness, you can clearly see in the screenshot that the fonts are rendered poorly, some letters are lighter than others, half of a letter is lighter than the other half, some don't look smooth, etc...

Not sure about that system. I'm using Debian testing and it has very good quality defaults (visually) which I change anyway to suit some of my preferences. So the claim about that "distros ship horrible defaults" is not universally applicable.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by thegeomaster »

Scarbutt wrote: post #164
aw3c2 wrote: post #158

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You know, you might be looking at a screenshot that has font settings (hinting etc) which work on the originating display and fail on yours. No reason to jump to snarkiness.

You do realize the screenshot is an image right?

Yes, a JPEG image :)

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by shmerl »

agumonkey wrote: post #143
Scarbutt wrote: post #135

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Yeah, I know you can make fonts look nice in linux, but distros ship with horrible defaults.

First, who do you think you are to question my font configuration skills (hint: nil), second, as mentioned earlier, there are ways to have 'better' font rendering. The thing is it requires a PhD in Linux display stack and frankly I don't care. I tried to care though, and it backfired at me (emacs was fubared, and that's a deal breaker), and this default config, even subpar, is pretty enough and stable enough. Lastly,…

> there are ways to have 'better' font rendering. The thing is it requires a PhD in Linux display stack

Not really. Just learning about how to adjust preferences for FontConfig. Antialiasing, hinting and subpixel rendering have a lot of effect on the visual appearance especially. You can read about it here:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration#Font...

There can be also some monitor specific tweaks like LCD filtering.

More feature rich DEs give quite easy to use interfaces for managing all that (for example KDE). So if you are using some barebones DE / WM, then you should be ready to do all that manually in the config files.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by joshstrange »

joshstrange wrote: post #88
drzaiusapelord wrote: post #43

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I'm not sure why you're being downvoted so much. I assume the usual FOSS fanboyism that rules HN. I used Chrome, IE11, and Firefox all day. FF is the only one that locks up and crashes on me. Its so rare in the other browsers I'm shocked when it happens in FF. I run almost no extensions and I think my copy at work has zero extensions and I don't even have flash installed, so the idea that it must be a plugin problem…

> FOSS fanboyism that rules HN. It's this, people HATE when you criticize FF (as I found the other week when I got downvoted for raising, what I thought were, valid points about crashes, lockups, and not being multi-process). I upvoted you and your parent but it won't be enough to stem the tide of downvotes (this is probably going to get downvoted as well).

Cool....

Dear downvoters,

How about you actually respond with your reasoning instead of proving my point perfectly.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by nilliams »

leeoniya wrote: post #44
pwr22 wrote: post #38

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Maybe I can stop zooming all the way in all the time soon :)

speaking of zooming, and if any Moz devs are watching, please finally fix radio and checkbox control zooming. it's been 7.5 years . https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=400364

Good shout, this seems like a pretty major accessibility bug, bit saddened that as a professional web dev I wasn't aware of it, otherwise I probably would've been applying a standard workaround like @sarciszewski.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by kmfrk »

vidyesh wrote: post #139
geppetto wrote: post #107

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About time! I've been using it a lot on FF mobile where it's super useful. This feature was announced long time ago. I've been using the Enjoy Reading extension for a while and found no good replacement when it was abandoned.

For desktop I use the Readability Bookmarklet[1]. Gets the job done. [1] https://www.readability.com/bookmarklets/

I use Evernote's Readly. Quite lovely, but the customization isn't the best compared to Readability.

I prefer having an extension/built-in tool to a bookmarklet, though.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by Millennium »

sandstrom wrote: post #122
mcdoug wrote: post #3

Wow this is a big release! HTTP 2.0, phasing out 1024 certs, sync, will-change. BTW, is there already support for 4096 certs? Or is that coming later?

Anyone know of a brief list of workarounds/schemes/optimizations that probably won't be needed (or will be less needed) with http2? (or just add to this list) - css sprites - monolith js/css-files - rotating through 'alias'-subdomains for resources - trimming cookies / cookie-less domains (for request-headers)

Sprites and concatenated js/css are still useful. HTTP/2 lets you make 100 requests over a single connection, and that's a lot better than making 100 requests over 100 connections, but it's still not going to beat one request over one connection.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

Scarbutt wrote: post #164
aw3c2 wrote: post #158

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You know, you might be looking at a screenshot that has font settings (hinting etc) which work on the originating display and fail on yours. No reason to jump to snarkiness.

You do realize the screenshot is an image right?

That doesn't matter. The pixel output of subpixel rendering only works on monitors with the pixel layout it's intended for.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by Millennium »

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #176
snarfy wrote: post #173

I switched back to Firefox and stopped using Chrome when it wanted me to 'sign in'. Even IE does not make me do that. I have to say their technical people are top notch, but their business leadership not so much. If they keep in this direction soon Chrome will look like the old AOL app. If you are unfamiliar, I recommend you also checkout firefox developer edition.

Chrome SignIn is basically the same thing as Firefox Sync. It keeps your bookmarks, extensions, and stored passwords (all controllable) in sync between the different devices you use the browser on.

The key difference being that Firefox's implementation gives you all this without having to let Google rifle through the data you want to sync.
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