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Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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I really just want a "normal" watch that has some "smart" features. I already have a sports tracker (Garmin Forerunner), and I have given up wearing my Moto360 because it's almost never useful in compelling enough ways that I don't just pull my phone out after seeing a notification ... and I have to charge it nightly.

If you want a normal watch combined with a fitbit, check out: http://www.withings.com/us/withings-activite.html

That's one sexy watch. Seems a lot like one of my fav watches [0].

Although:

> Android not compatible now

> Coming in end of February 2015

[0] http://www.baume-et-mercier.com/en/classima-10144.html#wf

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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I'm glad they went with ePaper, but I think I'll hold off until the battery life has developed to be quite a bit better (lasts a few months on a single charge?). The biggest value prop to having information on a watch to me is that I never have to think about charging my watch so I can always rely on it having the information I need. I don't recall ever replacing a watch battery and I'm looking forward to when smartw…

> I think I'll hold off until the battery life ... (lasts a few months on a single charge?)

You'll be waiting a very long time.

> Considering my Kindle lasts over a month on a single charge

Your Kindle isn't maintaining a bluetooth connection to your phone or updating the screen frequently, and has a much larger battery than a watch.

> I never have to think about charging my watch so I can always rely on it having the information I need.

With the Pebble you don't have to worry about it either. It notifies you when it's getting low (has a day or two of battery life remaining) and you charge it when you get the chance. And if you don't have time to give it a full charge, in my experience with just 10-15 minutes charging time you'll get a few more days of use.

I agree with your sentiment about battery life though. It's why I don't understand why anyone would even consider any smartwatch besides Pebble. Fall asleep without charging your watch one night and you can't wear it the next day? That's crazy. It also means you can't really use your watch as an alarm if you need to charge it each night.

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really just want a "normal" watch that has some "smart" features. I already have a sports tracker (Garmin Forerunner), and I have given up wearing my Moto360 because it's almost never useful in compelling enough ways that I don't just pull my phone out after seeing a notification ... and I have to charge it nightly.

If you want a normal watch combined with a fitbit, check out: http://www.withings.com/us/withings-activite.html

This reminds me of the movie Her. This is the direction I want wearable tech to go.

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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I think it's highly unlikely that Pebble didn't negotiate that 5% way down. While it's a symbiotic relationship, I think that at this point it's safe to say that it benefits Kickstarter more than Pebble.

Pebble is getting a very cheap line of credit with theoretically no obligation to repay (hence why any money you give in a KS is a 'donation' or 'pledge').

There's a contract to deliver on the promises made:

https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use#section4

The language isn't real strong though:

If a creator is unable to complete their project and fulfill rewards, they’ve failed to live up to the basic obligations of this agreement. To right this, they must make every reasonable effort to find another way of bringing the project to the best possible conclusion for backers.

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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That's from 2012, and as someone mentioned, was in response to a lot of risky hardware projects. More recently, Kickstarter changed their rules to be a lot simpler. https://www.kickstarter.com/rules Perhaps this campaign violates what you perceive as the spirit of Kickstarter, but Kickstarter itself has never had a problem with established companies/entertainers using the platform.

yeah, who would want to use kickstarter for a risky hardware project! When you can use it as a store by a company that raised more than $10 million, and this time sell a fully completed product with no special rewards or community input. They didn't even try to come up with any rewards this time - at any price, or show any part of how it was designed. it blatantly has nothing to do with the kickstarter spirit whatsoe…

yeah, you can see how outraged people are by how much they are refusing to support the offering

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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I'm glad that they finally broke out shipping from the pledge itself. A lot of smaller Kickstarter projects have been caught off-guard and hammered by the high costs of international shipping.

True. it's nice that they don't have to say, "manually add $10 to your pledge if you are outside the US." I bet the compliance with that is terrible.

Without a doubt. Based on the horror stories, I excluded international shipping options from my own Kickstarter just to avoid all the headaches.

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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It's a bland gadget. I'm really not sure about that approach. It's so cheap and uninspired. Whatever you think about the overall shape of the Apple Watch, at least it's not a bland gadget. It seems to pay meticulous attention to all the micro details that make jewelry jewlery and not a bland tech toy. (Seems to because obviously no one has looked at it in detail. But first indications are good.) This one does not. I'…

I question your taste. This Pebble looks better than the Apple Watch to me, certainly better than the Apple Watch Sport version which is made of similar materials. Just because there is an Apple watch cast in gold doesn't mean it's better designed.

I highly question yours... you sound crazy calling this better. The Apple Watch isn't the most beautiful designed gadget but you are making a really silly statement. It's honestly blowing my mind how you think this.

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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post #252

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Because at home I don't carry it around. Outside, I would have to get it out of my pockets to be able to access it. Also in inclement weather a cheap/water proof watch is less of a risk.

What's the range on that smartwatch before it is disconnected from your phone?

We have not tested it in the open. Inside home it stays connected when I'm in kitchen and the phone is in bedroom. It has also stayed connected when I went out to my car which was across my patio.

Re: Introducing Pebble Time

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That's from 2012, and as someone mentioned, was in response to a lot of risky hardware projects. More recently, Kickstarter changed their rules to be a lot simpler. https://www.kickstarter.com/rules Perhaps this campaign violates what you perceive as the spirit of Kickstarter, but Kickstarter itself has never had a problem with established companies/entertainers using the platform.

yeah, who would want to use kickstarter for a risky hardware project! When you can use it as a store by a company that raised more than $10 million, and this time sell a fully completed product with no special rewards or community input. They didn't even try to come up with any rewards this time - at any price, or show any part of how it was designed. it blatantly has nothing to do with the kickstarter spirit whatsoe…

Well, there's risky and then there's risky. I believe that post was put up at the same time that the LIFX light bulb campaign was prematurely ended at ~$2 million. That project was from someone whose previous KS project was a cardboard lightbox that had missed its shipping date at that point, so I think the likelihood of collateral damage there made Kickstarter pause. (Credit to LIFX that they learned/hired quickly and managed to ship.)

Whatever you take the spirit of Kickstarter to mean, I think that Pebble has it. They're grateful for Kickstarter, and foster a user community — launching a new product this way just feels native.

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