Firefox 36.0 released • Hacker News Board

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by yborg » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 7:28 PM UTC

izolate wrote: post #70

jherdman wrote: post #61

I'm presently in the middle of an experiment to use Firefox (and its Developer Edition) as my primary browser when performing my duties as a web developer. So far... It's been kind of rocky. Daily usage of the browser isn't that bad, but the developer tools are lacking compared to Chrome. A good example is the Network tab. In Chrome, I need only have the developer tools open to capture information about requests. In…

One minor grievance I have with the Firefox console is the input line is all the way at the bottom. I quite like Chrome's approach of starting at the top. Firefox has a few of these irritating UX quirks that I just can't get over. Having to restart after installing an extension is another. Every time I see the request, I can't help lose a bit of respect for it.

>Having to restart after installing an extension is another

Because it's part of your everyday workflow to install extensions one after another, right?

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by technojunkie » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 7:28 PM UTC

jherdman wrote: post #157

pmontra wrote: post #101

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You should install Firebug. It's better than the integrated dev tools in almost all areas. About writing extensions we had this on HN in September 2014 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8285744

I'll definitely give Firebug a try. I hadn't even considered it to be honest. I thought I remembered reading a while back that it was no longer important after Mozilla decided to brew their own.

I feel like adding Firebug adds unneeded weight to FF now that FF's dev tools have matured so much. There's still a lot of work to catch up to Chrome, as you stated, but for the most part it's very capable and Firebug just feels like bloat and adds memory consumption that's not necessary.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by neokya » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 7:33 PM UTC

Recently switched back to Firefox. Their search engine selection option is so easy and excellent.

On Chrome, non-technical people won't be able to change default search engine.

Thanks Mozilla.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by Scarbutt » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 7:33 PM UTC

aw3c2 wrote: post #158

Scarbutt wrote: post #109

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I see font rendering in linux is still pretty horrible.

You know, you might be looking at a screenshot that has font settings (hinting etc) which work on the originating display and fail on yours. No reason to jump to snarkiness.

You do realize the screenshot is an image right?

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by pmontra » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 7:35 PM UTC

technojunkie wrote: post #162

jherdman wrote: post #157

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I'll definitely give Firebug a try. I hadn't even considered it to be honest. I thought I remembered reading a while back that it was no longer important after Mozilla decided to brew their own.

I feel like adding Firebug adds unneeded weight to FF now that FF's dev tools have matured so much. There's still a lot of work to catch up to Chrome, as you stated, but for the most part it's very capable and Firebug just feels like bloat and adds memory consumption that's not necessary.

I sometimes use the dev tools but I prefer Firebug. Maybe it's only better looking but there are some real advantages. I'm on a phone now and can't make a side by side comparison. Relying on my memory won't work :-) The dev tools are faster, that's for sure but Firebug is not slow enough to switch. I'd like the two teams to merge.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by VieElm » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 7:41 PM UTC

aw3c2 wrote: post #160

austinsharp wrote: post #153

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On Android I use Javelin: http://javelinbrowser.com/

> Requires Android > 4.0 and up :(

Are you still on 2.3 Ginger Bread? When did you buy your phone? 2011?

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by glibgil » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 7:42 PM UTC

agumonkey wrote: post #141

darkhorn wrote: post #103

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What OS is this? Or what user interface?

archlinux (you could have guessed from the page shown;), wmii as WM, no customizations whatsoever.

Obviously false. They could not guess from the screenshot.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by johansch » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 7:45 PM UTC

neokya wrote: post #163

Recently switched back to Firefox. Their search engine selection option is so easy and excellent. On Chrome, non-technical people won't be able to change default search engine. Thanks Mozilla.

Yeah, cause so many people would want/need to change the chrome default search :). Firefox fans, it would make more sense for you to preach how good FF is, rather than how you can make it suck less...

It is fascinating to watch you guys. You love Firefox OS because of its principles - even though it sucks. You love the Yahoo search engine even though it sucks. That is some religious zeal.

Downvotes from zealots incoming...

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by agumonkey » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 7:46 PM UTC

glibgil wrote: post #167

agumonkey wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

archlinux (you could have guessed from the page shown;), wmii as WM, no customizations whatsoever.

Obviously false. They could not guess from the screenshot.

I did customize wmii default theme colour too. Twice falsified.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by snarfy » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 7:47 PM UTC

neokya wrote: post #163

Recently switched back to Firefox. Their search engine selection option is so easy and excellent. On Chrome, non-technical people won't be able to change default search engine. Thanks Mozilla.

> On Chrome, non-technical people won't be able to change default search engine.

By design. Thanks Google.