Who Can Save the Grand Canyon?

Post by gnaritas » Mon, Feb 23, 2015, 1:49 AM UTC

vacri wrote: post #109

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> That's because those people have no business being there. Says who? Who are you to tell people where they have business being? > Those mountains are for genuine climbers that can earn their ascent there, not idiots with too much money and no respect for a mountain, who have sherpas basically push them to the top. Again, says who? > I hate this ridiculously entitled attitude. Like the one you're showing telling othe…

Says who? Biology. Dying from a cerebral oedema is one way your body tells you "you shouldn't have come here". Rushing quickly up that kind of altitude is dangerous to your health - for example, one of the biggest contributors to altitude medicine was when India rushed an army to the Himalayas in the '60s to counter China [1]. They got a lot of pulmonary and cerebral oedemas, and the sizable affected population reall…

Post by Retra » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 6:16 AM UTC

gnaritas wrote: post #130

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Where are you going with this? People climb Mt Everest and die. Who says they shouldn't be there? You are free to be a rotten corpse, too, if you like. Good decision-making requires good judgement. If you think judgement is unfair, then go ahead and make dumb decisions. Though the whole point of having a conversation is to find out how to make good decisions, not to defend bad ones in the name of some misplaced 'righ…

People die climbing it, that's not a justification for saying people don't belong there when what's being suggested it not climbing but riding up in an enclosed environment to tour it. Your position has no merit.