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Women are leaving the tech industry in droves
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#13Misogyny in tech, example #547,423,842,763. Yet on cue the hard done-by privileged white males are coming out of the woodwork to whine.
This doesn't appear to highlight the problem. I'm open to discussion, but this article does nothing to provoke discussion it only highlights its conclusion and does little to support the conclusion it came to.
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#14Misogyny in tech, example #547,423,842,763. Yet on cue the hard done-by privileged white males are coming out of the woodwork to whine.
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#15The article begins by introducing Ana Redmond, who "launched into a technology career ... well-equipped to succeed ... In 2011, after 15 years, she left before achieving a management position." The article ends by telling us "Redmond now runs her own business making educational apps for children." I'm sorry, but how does founding a company that builds apps count as "leaving the tech industry"? I'm sure women face man…
Women reach a glass ceiling within the IT industry and decide to leave. Some, like Ana, are lucky enough to startup their own business. But this would be the minority. Most middle aged people have mortgages, families etc that they need to provide for. "Hostile" male culture, a sense of isolation and lack of a clear career path seem like a pretty sad indictment on our industry.
Re: Women are leaving the tech industry in droves
#16Misogyny in tech, example #547,423,842,763. Yet on cue the hard done-by privileged white males are coming out of the woodwork to whine.
I don't think anyone is arguing there isn't misogyny in tech. There is misogyny almost everywhere. It's been a part of our culture for a very long time and it will take time and continued efforts to solve the problem, but trying to determine which problems are the most obvious is part of the solution and does nothing to undermine the fact that there is a problem. This doesn't appear to highlight the problem. I'm open…
Re: Women are leaving the tech industry in droves
#17Misogyny in tech, example #547,423,842,763. Yet on cue the hard done-by privileged white males are coming out of the woodwork to whine.
I don't think anyone is arguing there isn't misogyny in tech. There is misogyny almost everywhere. It's been a part of our culture for a very long time and it will take time and continued efforts to solve the problem, but trying to determine which problems are the most obvious is part of the solution and does nothing to undermine the fact that there is a problem. This doesn't appear to highlight the problem. I'm open…
Examples include: Redmond, now 40, didn't want to leave her tech career. But she felt stuck, with no way to advance ; Chou, "The continuous pattern of all these people treating me like I didn't know what was going on, or excluding me from conversations and not trusting my assertions, all these things added up and it felt like there was an undercurrent of sexism"
Frankly this dismissive "misogyny is everywhere" attitude is pretty unhelpful. It isn't everywhere and even if it were it implies that it is somehow endemic to our culture which it isn't. Many industries actively support and encourage women especially in senior management positions.
Re: Women are leaving the tech industry in droves
#18Misogyny in tech, example #547,423,842,763. Yet on cue the hard done-by privileged white males are coming out of the woodwork to whine.
I don't think anyone is arguing there isn't misogyny in tech. There is misogyny almost everywhere. It's been a part of our culture for a very long time and it will take time and continued efforts to solve the problem, but trying to determine which problems are the most obvious is part of the solution and does nothing to undermine the fact that there is a problem. This doesn't appear to highlight the problem. I'm open…
I am explicitly arguing that not only that there is little to no misogyny it tech but even further, that the tech industry goes above and beyond to no be any of your favorite "- ists"
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think anyone is arguing there isn't misogyny in tech. There is misogyny almost everywhere. It's been a part of our culture for a very long time and it will take time and continued efforts to solve the problem, but trying to determine which problems are the most obvious is part of the solution and does nothing to undermine the fact that there is a problem. This doesn't appear to highlight the problem. I'm open…
I am. I am explicitly arguing that not only that there is little to no misogyny it tech but even further, that the tech industry goes above and beyond to no be any of your favorite "- ists"
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think anyone is arguing there isn't misogyny in tech. There is misogyny almost everywhere. It's been a part of our culture for a very long time and it will take time and continued efforts to solve the problem, but trying to determine which problems are the most obvious is part of the solution and does nothing to undermine the fact that there is a problem. This doesn't appear to highlight the problem. I'm open…
Go away
Where is the misogyny you see? I, like many others, see where we work as equal opportunity environments and note that the same opinion is shared by those considered minorities. If you've been exposed to something different, that's fine and can be a relevant addition to a discussion that you're flat out refusing to have because you consider your views as objective.