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Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by omeid2 »

corndoge wrote: post #382
terminado wrote: post #292

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You absolutely must link your Google Chrome install to your Google ID on Windows or you will lose data. Oh man... Settings and bookmarks are not "data" in any substantial sense. Incognito mode at all times, no Google ID ever, trash local history on every exit. I don't carry the expectation that my bookmarks must live on and follow me from machine to machine. I don't care about what my search preferences are. I simply…

Judging by your comment, I bet you're also fed up with the web being overloaded and scripted to hell to build enterprise applications on top of a system that was only designed to deliver plain readable text with links to other plain readable text. Me too. I think web applications should never have existed. The web was designed for hypertext, images, and other static consumable content. It wasn't designed to be a plat…

What does Node.js has to do with web in the context of being a platform? Sure, it is used for mostly for developing http apis but that doesn't make it "web".

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by realusername »

groovylick wrote: post #337

I returned to Firefox from Chrome about 1 year ago due to nagging rendering bugs with linux. Running out of video memory triggered a bug where Chrome would leave a stale buffer of the window on screen. My inputs still got to browser, I could change tabs, scroll, go full-screen it just won't repaint the window. I would have to restart my window manager to get it to repaint. The only solution was to disable GPU renderi…

I also have the same problem for the repaint window on Chrome, it's a really annoying bug and I have to close it and re-open it every time I lock my computer, Chrome simply cannot work properly when I unlock the computer again.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by realusername »

kenrick95 wrote: post #96
rockdoe wrote: post #52

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1) What do you do to make "Firefox memory goes too high" 2) What does about:crashes say for the crashes you get? Are those known bugs?

If you use AdBlockPlus, you can switch to uBlock ( https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock ) to achieve better memory performance.

For people complaining about the memory usage and using adblock, uBlock really solves everything, it's really night and day.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by arthurfm »

chimeracoder wrote: post #133
joshstrange wrote: post #63

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So still not in stable and Chrome has had it for what? 4 years now? EDIT: Ok, downvote me all you want but it's a fact, not opinion. I'd give FF another shot once it's in stable but as it is now I'm not going to waste my time playing on a nightly build.

> So still not in stable and Chrome has had it for what? 4 years now? Chrome is a much newer browser. At the time Chrome was released, it was the only browser with this design, because it's much easier to do when starting from scratch. Chrome benefited greatly simply from observing the design decisions of Firefox, IE, etc. that had had several years to play out by that point. In ten years (assuming Chrome is still ar…

> At the time Chrome was released, it was the only browser with this design

Not true. Beta 1 (and subsequent releases) of Internet Explorer 8 [1] included process isolation [2][3][4] before Google released the first public beta of Chrome on 2 September 2008 [5].

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_8#Release_his...

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_8#Performance...

[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Process_isolation#Web_browsers

[4] http://www.hanselman.com/blog/MicrosoftIE8AndGoogleChromePro...

[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome#Public_release

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by saurik »

dmix wrote: post #408
zetafunction wrote: post #333

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As a Chrome developer, I agree that process-per-tab absolutely should not be a replacement for fixing bugs. However, I think it's important to point out that process-per-tab is not just for stability: it's also critical for security.

Chrome is way ahead of Firefox in terms of security. It's worth the performance trade-offs. Each website is rendered in a separate process with a sandbox, each with an empty chroot + process namespace + network namespace + tiny seccomp-bpf + syscall whitelist. Chrome also has a stronger sandbox, pioneers better SSL, supports PIE on binaries, uses pepper - doesnt use native Flash plugins, the JIT compiler does randomi…

Chrome does not load every website into its own process: it does a lot of cross-site process sharing, and often very large numbers of sites can end up in the same process. It also does not keep each website into only one process, so in practice if a lot of tabs exist for one process (whether malicious or vulnerable) you can be assured of an overlap as you can end up in every process.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by Joeri »

cmon_yar wrote: post #569
spoiler wrote: post #505

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I actually have more problems with Firefox's performance than with Chrome's (in terms of processor power), Chrome definitely uses more memory, but it's super fast; firefox is just abysmally slow and can;t handle more than a few tabs. Tried both browsers on Windows 8.1 and Linux, with different machines (home and work computers), too. However, my high memory consumption in Chrome was due to using AdBlock, which is muc…

You should also keep in mind that everyone dosen't owns a high end machine or even a macbook. I have 4 machines at home , maximum specs are 2.5ghz with i3-4gb , and I guess this should be sufficient for running chrome alone , well atleast theoritically. In reality , chrome starts being unresponive , crashing tabs and stuff occurs beyond opening tabs beyond 7-8 and flash player crashes more often. Anddd , firefox is s…

I use chrome on an atom netbook with 2 GB ram, and it generally performs well even with 8 tabs open (some sites can bring it to its knees though)

That's the thing with anecdotal evidence, it's a sample of one.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by kriro »

I've used Firefox forever and I don't think I'll switch. Conceptually Chrome has some advantages but the difference is not big enough for me to care all that much. The Zotero integration has been great forever and I use that a lot. Guess that and vertical tabs are the two features I use most (I'm sure vertical tabs exist for all browsers).
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