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Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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I'd like to use Safari (instead of Chrome) but there's a couple of things holding me back.

- No omnibar with custom search engines by keyword. I use this extensively. - Closing multiple tabs is annoying, because they resize. Chrome solves this well.

The couple of times I used Firefox weren't pleasant. It seems to not work as well on OS X. Granted that has been a long time ago.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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The problem is using many open tabs with Chrome. If you use no more than 3 or 4 tabs, Chrome is generally fine. If you use more than that, Firefox has some built-in features to help with tabs such as delayed tab loading and tab grouping. It also has more and better extensions for helping with multiple tabs. Furthermore, it doesn't launch a new process for each tab. In a browser comparison I wrote last month, I includ…

I regularly have several hundred tabs open in Firefox with no problems. Some people may think this is crazy or messy but I find it very useful for organizing the various projects I'm working on for different clients and my own personal projects. Tab groups and delayed loading make it all very smooth. Such usage is just not possible with Chrome. I tried to switch to Chrome but couldn't find the features I needed and d…

If you tend to accumulate tabs and forget to close them then the Unload Tab [1] extension is a must. Your browser becomes laggy after opening 5 pages with flash elements? Just right-click on the current tab > "Unload Other Tabs". You can also set it to automatically unload background tabs after a certain amount of time.

[1]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/unloadtab/

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Top 2 things that suck in FF that makes me stick with Chrome, despite wanting to part ways with Google mothership : - sync (Chrome syncs everything while being reliable) - mobile Android app (FF mobile has insane scrolling behaviour, that's out of place on the platform).

Firefox also offers Sync[1]. Its mobile Android app[2] has shown dramatic improvement recently with support for add-ons[3] and Sync[4].

[1] https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/02/07/introducing-mozilla...

[2] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.fi...

[3] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/

[4] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-to-update-to-the-ne...

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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I'd like to switch back to Firefox, but they do not support inverted colors like Chrome does. Hacker Vision on Chrome is sooooo good. The closest I've found for Firefox is Color Toggle, but it fails in a lot of places, enough that FF+CT is not usable as my main browser. (This difference might be laid at the feet of the plugin writers, but I have the idea that there is inversion support available in the browser in Chr…

File a bug for it. Maybe somebody will implement that for you!

There exist related bugs in bugzilla, frex https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=825578 .

The css invert filter was very recently added to Firefox. Haven't played with this but sounds like it could make the job easier, so maybe FF will catch up here.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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It's called Chromium.

Nah man, it's iron by srware and it has been around since 2008. check this comparison between chrome and iron (which is based on chromium): https://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iro...

You'll uninstall Iron after you've read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRWare_Iron

"Although SRWare claims 'Iron is free and OpenSource' ... Iron 'is entirely closed source and has been since at least version 6'."

Or this:

http://neugierig.org/software/chromium/notes/2009/12/iron.ht...

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Tabs were one of the major reasons I switched over to Chrome. At the time, firefox resized the tabs as soon as space became available, making closing a bunch of tabs a pain. They don't do that anymore, but now they have the tab scrolling feature which adds a gui element if there are too many tabs. Thing is, once you close enough tabs, those elements go away immediately, making closing a bunch of tabs a pain. Biggest…

Ctrl-w kills a tab. Makes that kind of thing completely painless.

BetterTouchTool: map 4 finger swipe up to cmd+w.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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post #58

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This was the driving reason I switched back to Firefox as my main browser about a year ago. It reached a tipping point when I discovered that there was no way to unlink a Google apps business account from Chrome without resetting the browser entirely. Being that I'd never intended to 'sign into Chrome' in the first place (the form looks awfully similar to the gmail login), I essentially rage-quit Chrome and haven't l…

Google's way of handling accounts is infuriating. I have multiple g-mail accounts. One of them is my primary personal one, and another one I use is a shared account that my band uses for business and soundcloud. Google makes it hellish to sign out of one and into the other. For the longest time, I had them linked, and my band mates could see my personal e-mail. I don't know if they could get past a log in point, but…

Create a chrome user for each google account. There is then a hotkey for quickly switching between users.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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post #471

I'd like to use Safari (instead of Chrome) but there's a couple of things holding me back. - No omnibar with custom search engines by keyword. I use this extensively. - Closing multiple tabs is annoying, because they resize. Chrome solves this well. The couple of times I used Firefox weren't pleasant. It seems to not work as well on OS X. Granted that has been a long time ago.

> No omnibar with custom search engines by keyword.

Safari 8 has this feature. Not as elegant as the way Chrome handles it, but you can search domains you've previously searched by typing in the first few characters of the domain and hitting tab.

> Closing multiple tabs is annoying, because they resize.

Not sure when this was changed, but tabs only resize once you've moved your mouse away from the tab bar.

I switched away from Chrome a year or so ago when they changed the new tab page to have the huge, redundant search box and fewer frequently visited pages and haven't regretted it. I find Safari's UI to be leaps and bounds better than Chrome's, scrolling is much smoother, and it drains my battery way less than either Chrome or FF. There aren't nearly as many extensions for Safari, but the ones I use (1Password, Reddit Enhancement, etc.) are all available for Safari.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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post #41

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Its been my recent experience too, I keep a lot of tabs open and began to notice Chrome was filling up my memory. Very strange that Google let the situation get so bad. Mind you I find the Chrome developer tools far more powerful and intuitive than those in Firefox which stops me moving entirely.

The Firefox Devtools team regularly probes the webdev community on the features they need - make sure you let them know (and don't be surprised if they're in Aurora already).

The Firefox Devtools team even did an Ask HN[1] and then folowed up 10 days later[2] with the feedback they got.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5325445

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5393864

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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post #260

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> It also has more and better extensions for helping with multiple tabs. Exactly. Tree Style Tab being the biggest reason I've never switched to Chrome.

+1 for Tree Style Tab. I like to keep dozens of tabs open, and to drag and drop 'em into hierarchical groups. I also like to additionally organize the tab trees into multiple windows; the windows can be distinctively named with the FireTitle extension to identify them quickly. I admit that I never learned Panorama or Tab Groups. Tree Style Tab does just about everything I need.

Tree Style Tabs looks like it has a potential to allow querying HTML via SQL. I have been thinking about this for a while. I do not have a concrete idea for an application, but it would be cool to retrieve titles of all open sites in certain group/tree. Almost like some sort of scraper.
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