Testosterone is the drug of the future

Post by epaladin » Wed, Feb 04, 2015, 2:04 PM UTC

beaumartinez wrote: post #22

return0 wrote: post #16

I wonder if it is possible to compare today's T levels with men of 100 years ago or even more. It could be that the industrialization and urbanization has caused a massive change in T levels because of natural reasons (less sun, less exercise, less anxiety, processed foods, tight clothing, what have you)

Alcohol, plastics (which leech from containers into the liquid they contain), pesticides (on fruits, vegetables)—there are a host of environmental factors that reduce our testosterone levels. And as for anxiety, I think our modern urban lifestyle far increases our anxiety levels compared to our ancestors. The human body was not meant for the world we live in!

Post by Anderkent » Wed, Feb 04, 2015, 2:09 PM UTC

benihana wrote: post #111

hellodevnull wrote: post #87

>I was just at the gym watching the 30-year-olds at the pull-up bar building muscles in three weeks. And I’m at the pull up bar and nothing’s happening While many of you are thinking that he's making excuses (he might be) or that the other guys worked long and hard to build muscle, I can relate: I've been lifting weights three times a week for the last four years. I still look average, and yes I'm eating and exercisi…

> I've been lifting weights three times a week for the last four years. I still look average, and yes I'm eating and exercising properly. People always says this. They always eat well and recover properly, but they just can't make any gains. Everyone else can, but they can't and instead of looking at the simplest explanation, they do hurdles to convince themselves they have low test and that's why they're not perfect…

Post by will_work4tears » Wed, Feb 04, 2015, 2:12 PM UTC

omegaham wrote: post #110

Lio wrote: post #79

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"Women live longer than men" is interesting though. Does that take into account the horrendous levels of male suicide? Statistically does this bump the average life expectancies down for men? I'm definitely not disagreeing with you. It seems very plausible that human growth hormone could be linked to some cancers. On a side note, is baldness actually a "health issue"? I mean I know mainstream media doesn't like to sh…

This is a good point. Men do more dangerous jobs, are much more likely to be murdered, do riskier behavior, and commit suicide more often. On the other hand, women bear children, which historically would have been a huge cause of early death. Not as much these days, though.

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Feb 04, 2015, 2:21 PM UTC

golemotron wrote: post #86

mironathetin wrote: post #68

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I am happy that an expert without a bias reports about this. What you noted down came back into my mind immediately. These were the reported risks for professional athletes (back in the days when I decided to study physics instead of taking more of this junk and go pro). There are also natural ways to keep your own T level high, like healthy food, enough sleep, everything that increases your muscle mass (weightliftin…

I don't think so. If testosterone is the culprit for increased risk of coronary artery disease, prostate cancer and sleep apnea, then doing things that naturally increase testosterone will increase risk also. Don't succumb to the naturalistic fallacy. The body doesn't care where it gets its chemicals from.

Post by atom-morgan » Wed, Feb 04, 2015, 2:22 PM UTC

freshfey wrote: post #75

toolz wrote: post #26

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>- I didn't get huge muscles or less body fat with more testosterone (huge myth that I thought would change for me) The many studies done on this subject show that testosterone makes a huge impact on muscle growth. Take this 10 week study for instance, http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101 . The placebo group working out didn't experience nearly as much muscle gain as those taking testosterone did…

I can only answer with my personal experience here: During the intermittent fasting time (age 25), where I went from from 6xx to 1024ng/dl, I didn't gain significant amount of muscle, although I was working out with heavy (free) weights, 3x per week.