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Re: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2

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Post by eyko »

spacecowboy_lon wrote: post #242
rplnt wrote: post #233

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Is it more expensive than OS X though? Windows licenses are like $50 for OEM. With OS X you have to constantly buy upgrades since their support period is short. I might be wrong though, never bought an OS X license.

And OSX and Server is an orphan product try to find any usefull information about using OSx/Mac's when you have more than one or two systems. Thers no G dmm X Clinet FFS I am Migrating our mostly Mac shop from standalone to networked using OSX and to be honest using windows server 2012 woudl have been far cheaper in time and hardware costs

Please explain networked...

Re: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2

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Post by tomc1985 »

okasaki wrote: post #235
sremani wrote: post #229

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Which way is Linux miles ahead ? This is not a rhetorical question, I really want to understand. What features and functionality of Linux are missing in Windows that sets them miles apart ?

Just off the top of my head: package management, live-cd functionality, architecture support, command-line interfaces, GUI variety, kernel customization, scaling to low-powered harware, licencing.

package management: chocolatey, M$ is also developing something

live cd functionality: bartPE, UBCD4WIN

architecture support: x86, x64, itanium (limited), ARM (limited)

command-line interfaces: powershell (sucks but still...), command.com

kernel customization: not directly but there are special skus

scaling to low powered hardware: Windows Embedded Edition

licensing: linux still wins

Re: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2

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Post by sharpneli »

listic wrote: post #140

Has there been 'a version of Windows' (how is this one called, by the way?) that works on ARM, before? Does this version support any other ARM board?

Windows RT. It was normal W8, except the W32 api could be accessed only by MS signed software so developers could use only metro.

Re: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2

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Post by ZenoArrow »

sharpneli wrote: post #293
listic wrote: post #140

Has there been 'a version of Windows' (how is this one called, by the way?) that works on ARM, before? Does this version support any other ARM board?

Windows RT. It was normal W8, except the W32 api could be accessed only by MS signed software so developers could use only metro.

Going back a bit you could include Windows CE alongside Windows RT if you liked. Windows Mobile as well. Is Windows Phone a version of RT?

Re: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2

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Post by jcrawfordor »

eyko wrote: post #291
spacecowboy_lon wrote: post #242

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And OSX and Server is an orphan product try to find any usefull information about using OSx/Mac's when you have more than one or two systems. Thers no G dmm X Clinet FFS I am Migrating our mostly Mac shop from standalone to networked using OSX and to be honest using windows server 2012 woudl have been far cheaper in time and hardware costs

Please explain networked...

I assume he means shared profile/network authentication/configuration management. Active Directory stuff, basically, which yeah, OS X server can do, but I share the opinion that it is actually much harder to get set up to feature parity.

Re: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2

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Post by mark_l_watson »

doczoidberg wrote: post #276
mark_l_watson wrote: post #174

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Microsoft Azure has very good support for Linux. One thing I like in particular is how quick it is to reboot a running Linux VPS with more or less memory and CPU. It has made me reconsider using vertical scaling in addition to horizontal scaling for some applications. Faster and easier than with AWS. Except for writing a commercial app for Windows 1.0, I have not been much of a Microsoft fan over the years but that h…

rebooting/starting Linux on a VPS takes much more time on Azure for me? This is the case I use AWS instead of Azure for my VMs.

That is interesting. Last month I wanted much more memory in my VPS, and using the web interface, the server was available in about 10 seconds with more RAM.

I agree though, AWS is also a great platform - I have been using it for customer work just about since they released EC2s.

Re: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2

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Post by dagw »

toni wrote: post #288
dagw wrote: post #71

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can you install gcc, golang, nodejs, python, ruby, ghc, lua (...) on windows with a single command Yes! Just install chocolaty and type cinst git cinst mingw cinst vim (and so on) Prior to Windows 10 it is a third party tool and not officially supported by windows. However starting with Windows 10 windows will ship with a version of this command called OneGet and it will be be officially part of windows.

I don't think you can call chocolaty a package manager as it does not (and, by the nature of Windows, can not) offer dependency resolutions in the way apt works. It might be better to call it a package downloader or a package installer.

it's not simply a downloader as it also does handles application level dependencies (as opposed to library level dependencies) as well as keeping track of versions and handling updates.

Either way, while it is inferior to apt-get in many ways, it does fill the original posters brief in that it will let you install python,node,gcc,ghc,postgres etc. with a simple CLI command

Re: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2

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Post by integraton »

Apofis wrote: post #290
wfunction wrote: post #260

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GUI "variety" ? Are you joking? The very reason there exists so much "variety" is that they all suck. Windows has one GUI system and it's worked darn well for quite a long time, and will continue to do so. Linux might be able to let you make your windows do somersaults so you can show off to your friends, but it still hasn't been able to get the basics right, like focus-stealing prevention. Windows is miles ahead of…

I don't know... Ubuntu's UI is pretty consistant and I think simpler to use than Windows. I wouldn't say it sucks... at all.

After using Ubuntu Desktop recently for the first time in a few years, I completely agree. I'm really surprised it's not more popular yet.
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