Looks like software from the 2000's :( They should just hire someone to make a modern design
LibreOffice 4.4, the Most Beautiful LibreOffice Ever
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Re: LibreOffice 4.4, the Most Beautiful LibreOffice Ever
#112Sigh. I see the trend of horrible single colour icons has now spread to LibreOffice.
Re: LibreOffice 4.4, the Most Beautiful LibreOffice Ever
#113So it's better... but from the screenshot, I'd say myself it's design now reaches "barely acceptable", instead of the previous "pretty bad", but not "delightful" either. Of course, I think I could say the same (or worse) about MS Word, it's main competitor. So.
Curious - there are a lot of ways to say the terminal "so." I would have thought that ellipses (so...) capture the affect with which most people deliver it, but the hard stop actually adds a nice twang to it. I imagine the speaker quickly saying it, pursing their lips slightly and tilting their head to one side while maintaining eye contact with the other party in the conversation. But yeah, totes agree on the design…
Re: LibreOffice 4.4, the Most Beautiful LibreOffice Ever
#114While I appreciate effort put into making the interface prettier, one of the things that really detracts from LibreOffice and why I almost invariably end up installing MS Word for clients is the confusing way which the mail merge system is designed in LibreOffice. I've done it enough times now to know mostly how to get it working for myself, but there's no way in hell I'll try teaching a client how to do a mail merge…
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you ever tried contributing to a popular FOSS product? I have. Expect to be downvoted, yelled at, etc for suggesting change, especially change that's an emotional issue for geeks (implementing a ribbon-like interface, you know the one started by the 'evil' microsoft). Linus's childish attitude is pretty much the poster boy for this attitude. Namecalling is the norm. There are so many cultural and management issu…
I think a lot of it comes down to what a visual designer can contribute. FOSS projects are typically the sum of individual contributions from a lot of people, all scratching their itches. There is limited scope for someone to tell other people what they need to do. A designer who can't code is dependent on other people donating their time so that the design can be realized. This puts the designer at an immediate disa…
A well run project would be soliciting UI changes, mock-ups, demos, etc. They would be planning it out, have an implementation schedule, etc. Frankly, the idea that designers waltz in and yell at humble nerds is more than a little overly generous to the broken Linus-style FOSS management style.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
AbiWord and Gnumeric have always looked better than their LibreOffice counterparts!
Gnumeric is a large steaming pile of dog poo. Do a sort on a largeish file and it will consume all the known RAM in the universe. Do the same operation in Excel and it barely breaks a sweat.
I'll admit that I only deal with that many columns on very rare occasions, but it does come in handy sometimes.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your personal moderation guidelines are admirable, but as they aren't in any way in-line with the moderation guidelines of the site, perhaps you should treat them like spiritual beliefs, and keep them to yourself? EDIT: s/like your/like/g (unintentional ad-hominem)
Ad hominem attacks, however, are clearly not in-line with moderation guidelines. :P
Edit: ah. Everyone assumed I was talking about ggparent's spiritual beliefs. Amazing how a sole personal pronoun can alter intent.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your personal moderation guidelines are admirable, but as they aren't in any way in-line with the moderation guidelines of the site, perhaps you should treat them like spiritual beliefs, and keep them to yourself? EDIT: s/like your/like/g (unintentional ad-hominem)
Where did I mention spiritual beliefs??? As for these being my guidelines - they aren't. In my time using HN I've seen many, many people advocate that guideline. It might be useful to rethink your attitude when commenting your average karma is less than one.
I've advocated your same guidelines in the past, as they promote a healthy site/forum, but they are not HN's guidelines. PG has actually encouraged the antithesis of your guidelines in the past, so I'm compelled to tell you as much.
Re: LibreOffice 4.4, the Most Beautiful LibreOffice Ever
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your personal moderation guidelines are admirable, but as they aren't in any way in-line with the moderation guidelines of the site, perhaps you should treat them like spiritual beliefs, and keep them to yourself? EDIT: s/like your/like/g (unintentional ad-hominem)
Where did I mention spiritual beliefs??? As for these being my guidelines - they aren't. In my time using HN I've seen many, many people advocate that guideline. It might be useful to rethink your attitude when commenting your average karma is less than one.
PG has said that downvote to disagree is acceptable.
Can you point to anything in the guidelines or introductions or faqs about not downvotig for disagreement?
Since it's impossible to eliminate downvotig for disagreement you may as well just let it happen.
Re: LibreOffice 4.4, the Most Beautiful LibreOffice Ever
#120Windows user here. It's not particularly any prettier, and Calc doesn't open CSVs correctly anymore. So yeah, there's that. http://i.imgur.com/i1YuVXA.png
Importing of CSVs is a joke in both OO and LibreOffice - I literally have to rename files to .csv to get them to interpret .txt (or other extensions) as comma-separated - there's no nice "Import" menu like Excel has had for decades. Even opening Calc first then using its menu to open a .txt opens the file in LibreOffice Writer! And then of course Gnome's (on Linux) file browsers no longer support renaming of files in…
Watch out, though, for handling CSV files in Excel if you're using an encoding other than ANSI.
Excel for Windows does not correctly write UTF-8 files[1]
Excel for Mac lists 'UTF-8' as an import CSV encoding option but Excel for Mac does not import UTF-8 CSV files[2]
[1]Response from MS employee: "Unfortunately, not all applications can encode files in UTF-8 by default, and Microsoft Excel is one of them." http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/office/forum/office_2013_...
[2]Response from MS employee: "Excel for Mac does not currently support UTF-8" -- despite UTF-8 being an option in Excel for Mac http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/mac/forum/macoffice2011-m...