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LibreOffice 4.4, the Most Beautiful LibreOffice Ever

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Re: LibreOffice 4.4, the Most Beautiful LibreOffice Ever

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Post by woodman »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #46
shRaj9fEc8Vith wrote: post #38

Don't OSS project has professional designer? I mean like Apple-quality designers?

Have you ever tried contributing to a popular FOSS product? I have. Expect to be downvoted, yelled at, etc for suggesting change, especially change that's an emotional issue for geeks (implementing a ribbon-like interface, you know the one started by the 'evil' microsoft). Linus's childish attitude is pretty much the poster boy for this attitude. Namecalling is the norm. There are so many cultural and management issu…

> ... so much FOSS stuff looks like shit and has poor documentation.

Compared to what? By volume? Go read the documentation for openbsd, freebsd or vim. I've never seen more thoughtfully structured documentation.

> Oh god, heaven forbid you're a woman in FOSS telling men to make a change.

I wonder how long it is going to take before it becomes obvious that this sort of whining is counterproductive and induces fatigue in even those who are sympathetic. Consider what is actually happening in open source software development. Consider the personality types of those drawn to a field with such great opportunity for self determination, and risk for failure and public humiliation. Whining isn't going to help you in that environment.

> ... the writers are systemically kicked around to the point where they don't contribute much ...

I've never seen this happen, most of the projects I've been part of bend over backwards to encourage writers. Where did you see this?

Re: LibreOffice 4.4, the Most Beautiful LibreOffice Ever

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Post by nicolasehrhardt »

kinleyd wrote: post #70
bitL wrote: post #26

I am probably in the minority, but even AbiWord looks way better than this new design - let's have simplistic monochrome icons on our 4k 10-bit displays everywhere! Also, the font on toolbars is sci-fi and not serious-work-like. Huge white spaces everywhere with gradients out of place. I like the new fonts (seems inspired by Yosemite) and the bottom shape panel is nice as well.

I like AbiWord, but for some reason it keeps crashing on my Arch Linux system. Between Libre Calc and Excel, I've always had to revert to Excel for its Pivot Table features. Libre Calc has thus far made a very weak stab at that for me.

I think Libre Calc has a pivot table feature though. Are you missing a feature within the pivot table options?

Re: LibreOffice 4.4, the Most Beautiful LibreOffice Ever

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Post by anonbanker »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #34
JadeNB wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I downvoted. If you want to use the ribbon-style MS UI, then use MS products. I am glad to have a place to go that allows me to read and edit ubiquitous Office documents without having to be part of the Office eco-system. I agree that LibreOffice probably reminds more of old than of modern Office—I use both as little as possible, so don't keep up with the trends—but so what? To put it differently, why should Microsof…

>> I downvoted. Don't down vote people simply because you disagree with them. Just because you don't agree with their opinion doesn't mean it should be hidden from others. Use the down vote to hide comments that don't add to the discussion.

Your personal moderation guidelines are admirable, but as they aren't in any way in-line with the moderation guidelines of the site, perhaps you should treat them like spiritual beliefs, and keep them to yourself?

EDIT: s/like your/like/g (unintentional ad-hominem)

Re: LibreOffice 4.4, the Most Beautiful LibreOffice Ever

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Post by chris_wot »

elektronjunge wrote: post #39
skrowl wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It already works (somewhat) on Android: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Android-ARM@2...

That's just a viewer. Getting documents to render and making a usable touch interface for editing documents are two very different things.

It's a viewer because editing is disabled. Editing is coming :-)

Re: LibreOffice 4.4, the Most Beautiful LibreOffice Ever

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Post by epascarello »

ForHackernews wrote: post #69
chops wrote: post #50

While I appreciate effort put into making the interface prettier, one of the things that really detracts from LibreOffice and why I almost invariably end up installing MS Word for clients is the confusing way which the mail merge system is designed in LibreOffice. I've done it enough times now to know mostly how to get it working for myself, but there's no way in hell I'll try teaching a client how to do a mail merge…

Huh. This is an interesting example of a feature that's very important to some people, and utterly irrelevant to others. I had never even heard of "mail merge" in the context of word processing software, only mass-emailers, and it would never have occurred to me that anyone was using desktop word processing software to run their paper-mailing campaigns.

Think snail mail, not email.

Re: LibreOffice 4.4, the Most Beautiful LibreOffice Ever

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Post by chris_wot »

berkut wrote: post #84
cheald wrote: post #56

Windows user here. It's not particularly any prettier, and Calc doesn't open CSVs correctly anymore. So yeah, there's that. http://i.imgur.com/i1YuVXA.png

Importing of CSVs is a joke in both OO and LibreOffice - I literally have to rename files to .csv to get them to interpret .txt (or other extensions) as comma-separated - there's no nice "Import" menu like Excel has had for decades. Even opening Calc first then using its menu to open a .txt opens the file in LibreOffice Writer! And then of course Gnome's (on Linux) file browsers no longer support renaming of files in…

Have you considered filing a bug report?

Re: LibreOffice 4.4, the Most Beautiful LibreOffice Ever

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Post by frozenport »

hippich wrote: post #49
ExpiredLink wrote: post #5

Exhaustive and seamless import and export of Microsoft formats - that's the most important and desired LibreOffice feature for me and probably for for most LO users!

while this feature makes LibreOffice gather more users, in the long term this strategy IMHO will not pay off. "Microsoft formats" is moving target and playing "catch up with microsoft" game all the time - wasting resources which otherwise could be poured into making product itself nicer, which in turn will convince users to switch based on features, not just on the fact, that it is free. I hope my idea make sense :)…

Its not a moving target because old versions of office must open documents from new versions.

Re: LibreOffice 4.4, the Most Beautiful LibreOffice Ever

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Post by xico »

ryanthejuggler wrote: post #44

The icons need color for easy differentiation. These crisp monochrome icons are nice in theory, but when you're quickly scanning for an icon it all goes to mush in your vision.

They are not nice in vision theory at least. To make them as differentiable as you could, they should all have different texture, orientations and colours.
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