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Re: Firefox Hello

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Post by kogepathic »

tormeh wrote: post #108
vertex-four wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Telefonica run O2 in the UK, which is a decent mobile network (and the only one which covers my house).

O2 in Germany sucks, though. You actually have to snail-mail them your resignation letter, there are frequent brief outages in the night and they are often slow at setting up your service. I mean, they do deliver decent internet, but their customer service is awful.

>You actually have to snail-mail them your resignation letter

So? You have to send written notice to cancel any contract in Germany. This is totally standard.

Re: Firefox Hello

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Post by collyw »

nevergetenglish wrote: post #67
icebraining wrote: post #58

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Personal experience is not FUD. I'm not a user, but all I've heard about Telefonica is complaints and grievances. They were also the ISP which forced a caching proxy on its ADSL users, breaking a lot of sites. Granted that was a few years ago.

"Lack of service for hours every day", is that a personal experience? Telefonica was providing services in villages and small towns with very difficult geography (mountains, roads, ...). Now there is a big competition in Spain, for example Jazztel is offering 200Gigabit/s up-down for 36 euros/moth and phone tax included. Our country is getting better in the IT sector and telefonica was the pioneer. It is easy to crit…

Living in Spain, I haven't noticed much to differentiate ISP's on compared to the UK. Telefonica seem very average to me, and their service was pretty reliable when we had it.

I live in Barcelona, is it likely that bigger cities get better service than other places?

Re: Firefox Hello

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Post by icot »

BSousa wrote: post #6

I saw the tag line, liked what I saw until "powered by Telefonica". Seriously, I've lived in more than half of the European countries for a while, and never ever EVER saw such a shitty internet service as in Spain over their network. Lack of service for hours every day, substandard speeds... It made me anticipate a move to Portugal by one year because of their shitty service.

Coming from Spain, I had the same feeling when I got to that part :s

Re: Firefox Hello

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Post by tckr »

e0m wrote: post #160

Can this support multiple conversations at once? Group chat Sqwiggle / Hangout style?

That's definitely a requirement for me to switch from Hangouts …

Re: Firefox Hello

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Post by aragot »

e0m wrote: post #160

Can this support multiple conversations at once? Group chat Sqwiggle / Hangout style?

It doesn't seem so. I've tried with 3 windows (FF Dev, FF and Chrome) and it says "There are already two people in this conversation."

Re: Firefox Hello

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Post by mattmanser »

TheDong wrote: post #72
mattmanser wrote: post #63

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My parents had an uncanny knack for always buying slightly the wrong thing when I was a kid. Betamax, Amigas, minidiscs. I used to have a cassette player that had a tape recorder on it. It made it bigger and heavier, and probably more expensive and I never used the record feature. Just because part of the product works well, doesn't mean the rest of it is good.

That's a bad and misleading comparison here though. Your cassette player had to add the bulky recording feature to become a recorder, but did not need it to be a player. Firefox is a webbrowser, not a video conferencing software, but it had to add WebRTC to be a web-browser (the bulky bit), so adding in recording is trivial. A more honest analogy would be saying you had a cassette player that already had all the hard…

Not really at all.

They're going to have to add a whole load of features and new UI elements which will increase the cost of updating and progressing the browser.

Either it's going to be a half assed Skype tacked in behind a menu somewhere, or a browser cluttered with all the visual UI of a chat program.

To say they had to do most of it anyway is compete nonsense. The protocol is like 1/10th of a decent chat program.

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Post by reidrac »

Sir_Substance wrote: post #107

It seems there is a lot of confusion going on here. Firefox hello is a website that implements webRTC based video conferencing in a browser agnostic way. The "firefox hello" button that has shown up in recent versions of the browser is a bit of UI magic over an API to this website. The video conferencing code is not implemented in the browser. If you send a firefox hello link to a chrome user, it opens the webpage wh…

I have a success story with that.

I moved abroad and I have a chat with my parents using Skype from time to time. After the Microsoft acquisition Skype had to be upgraded and the old version stopped working. My parents aren't tech-savvy really and I failed to diagnose their problem remotely, so I tried https://talky.io/ (just because I watched Sam Dutton talk about WebRTC and he used that web for a demo).

It worked (to be completely fair, slightly worse than an average Skype session), and it kind of blew my mind. My parents weren't impressed though, when I explained them how amazing was that we were video conferencing using a website and open standards.

EDIT: typos

Re: Firefox Hello

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Post by skyshine »

Does anyone know if they are planning on including an IM client with it. (I know it doesn't have one yet). Without that it is pretty useless to me.

Re: Firefox Hello

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Post by 72deluxe »

gcb0 wrote: post #127
pekk wrote: post #116

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I don't have any problem with people making open source projects and then publishing them once they are finished. It's still open source.

If you had contributed to chromium for weeks, and then google come with it's monthly dump and overwritten everything you and others did in the open, you would have a different opinion.

Has that happened to you? I noticed a new fancy Bookmark management system in Chromium and then it suddenly disappeared again.
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