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Re: Firefox Hello

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Post by mccr8 »

cjensen wrote: post #10

A web browser should not include X functionality, but should allow a web page to implement X functionality. In my view, this is true for most values of X, including Skype, Mail, Word, Excel... To add insult to injury, there is no simple way of disabling the functionality[1]. Firefox Hello is ludicrous. [1] about:config is not a valid value of simple

The underlying technology used to implement this is WebRTC, which is available to web pages. Implementing peer-to-peer real time video communication entirely in Javascript would be difficult, so it has to be provided to some extent by the browser itself.

Re: Firefox Hello

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Post by suyash »

monsterix wrote: post #7

Super! Looks great works great too! Lately I'd been bothered by poor quality experience and sometimes even spam requests on Skype. Hangouts was never my thing and Firefox Hello seems like a breath of fresh air just at the right time. Keep it up!

another problem with tools like Skype and Google Hangout is the number of concurrent participants.

Re: Firefox Hello

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Post by criley2 »

cjensen wrote: post #10

A web browser should not include X functionality, but should allow a web page to implement X functionality. In my view, this is true for most values of X, including Skype, Mail, Word, Excel... To add insult to injury, there is no simple way of disabling the functionality[1]. Firefox Hello is ludicrous. [1] about:config is not a valid value of simple

Just call it the "Chrome-ification" of Firefox.

Chrome is automatically updated to be jam-packed full of browser-specific APIs and functionality.

Like when Chrome automatically updated and registered itself as a background service without permission.

Or when Chrome automatically installed a microphone listening service for always on "OK Google" hotword detection.

Or the fact that Chrome Apps are less and less "webpages" and more and more "applications that only support the Chrome API".

"To add insult to injury, there is no simple way of disabling the functionality"

I wish I got paid my hourly rate for the sheer amount of time I spend combing through Google Product Forums reading about what arcane chrome://flags or commandline ---arg is required to disable their new functions.

It's a shame what's happening to the web.

Re: Firefox Hello

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Post by diminish »

cjensen wrote: post #10

A web browser should not include X functionality, but should allow a web page to implement X functionality. In my view, this is true for most values of X, including Skype, Mail, Word, Excel... To add insult to injury, there is no simple way of disabling the functionality[1]. Firefox Hello is ludicrous. [1] about:config is not a valid value of simple

A mobile OS should not include X functionality, but should allow a mobile app to implement X functionality. But somehow due to competition for the platform, every company is more or less in the same race.

Re: Firefox Hello

#27

Post by vertex-four »

BSousa wrote: post #6

I saw the tag line, liked what I saw until "powered by Telefonica". Seriously, I've lived in more than half of the European countries for a while, and never ever EVER saw such a shitty internet service as in Spain over their network. Lack of service for hours every day, substandard speeds... It made me anticipate a move to Portugal by one year because of their shitty service.

Telefonica run O2 in the UK, which is a decent mobile network (and the only one which covers my house).

Re: Firefox Hello

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Post by ffn »

As an example of WebRTC this is pretty decent... but please work on getting navigator.getUserMedia to screen-capture into a stream more easily; right now, the browsers' screen-capturing apis are extremely wonky and difficult to build applications with.

Re: Firefox Hello

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Post by dysoco »

BSousa wrote: post #6

I saw the tag line, liked what I saw until "powered by Telefonica". Seriously, I've lived in more than half of the European countries for a while, and never ever EVER saw such a shitty internet service as in Spain over their network. Lack of service for hours every day, substandard speeds... It made me anticipate a move to Portugal by one year because of their shitty service.

> such a shitty internet service as in Spain over their network

Actually from my experience that was pretty good compared to uh... Telefonica in Argentina.

And then people complain about Comcast!

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