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I hate being "that guy", but what about sites like https://appear.in/ that do this without (seemingly?) depending on browser support? Is this using some novel p2p technique that can't be implemented using just JS? When you send a FF Hello invite to a Chrome user, it works fine. I.o.w.: why is this not just a website?
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> A web browser should not include X functionality, but should allow a web page to implement X functionality. Exactly. Firefox doesn't include "Firefox Hello" anymore than it includes "Gmail". Instead, Firefox (and other web browsers) include XMLHttpRequest and WebRTC, which can be used to implement whatever you want. I'm getting pretty tired of hearing this trope ("teh bloat!") anytime a browser announces new functi…
You're confusing Firefox Hello with WebRTC. Let me explain by analogy with a video codec: For video, Firefox contains a video codec. Surfing to YouTube lets the YouTube web page play video. Firefox does not contain a "Youtube Player". That's exactly the opposite of what they have done here. They have added basically added a "Telefonica WebRTC Player". That's wrong. They should have added WebRTC generically so that yo…
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WebRTC was "generically" added to Firefox in 2013, ie: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/06/webrtc-comes-to-firefox/ Of course, with it being added generically, tons of websites immediately started using it..... nope. Ok, well, lets go back before that blog post... https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/02/hello-chrome-its-firefox-c... Ah ha, isn't that neat. WebRTC in Firefox and Chrome and a demo of it! Wait, still pretty muc…
I've had good experiences with talky and I know hangouts uses webrtc. I think the biggest problem is the lack of accounts, chat, logging, and persistence in webrtc. Thats what keeps it from being a p2p communication protocol in general whereas now its just a toy for video calls. I mean, when you cannot share links during your video call easily, somethings wrong.
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"Lack of service for hours every day", is that a personal experience? Yes, it's clear from the post that it is from personal experience. Why would you think otherwise? Telefonica was providing services in villages and small towns with very difficult geography Yes, back when it was a public company; that was just their responsibility. It is easy to critique but in the old times there was no other option Yes, but neith…
BSousa is commenting in another post down that in Manilva (a town in Spain) the service went down for two days ? (that's all). I posted a link in which Manilva is going to be the first town in Andalusia with 100% optic fiber (only telefonica) and now has 4G. There is one comment in that page from one people living there, and he says: At last we are going out of the prehistoric time. There is a headline: Peter Thiel:…
There is a headline: Peter Thiel: Google Is A Monopoly - Business Insider
Being a monopoly isn't illegal, abusing that position is, and that's what Telefonica was fined for.
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WebRTC was "generically" added to Firefox in 2013, ie: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/06/webrtc-comes-to-firefox/ Of course, with it being added generically, tons of websites immediately started using it..... nope. Ok, well, lets go back before that blog post... https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/02/hello-chrome-its-firefox-c... Ah ha, isn't that neat. WebRTC in Firefox and Chrome and a demo of it! Wait, still pretty muc…
Facebook uses WebRTC for calls on the release versions of Firefox. That probably counts for something.
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The underlying technology used to implement this is WebRTC, which is available to web pages. Implementing peer-to-peer real time video communication entirely in Javascript would be difficult, so it has to be provided to some extent by the browser itself.
But, if this is peer-to-peer, what's Telefonica's role?
That is what Telefonica might be doing -- providing a default registration service.
Also because of funky routers and NAT rules, even after the initial session is set up data/audio might not be going through, so then you need STUN or TURN servers so Telefonica might be providing those as well.
Firefox hello is a website that implements webRTC based video conferencing in a browser agnostic way.
The "firefox hello" button that has shown up in recent versions of the browser is a bit of UI magic over an API to this website. The video conferencing code is not implemented in the browser.
If you send a firefox hello link to a chrome user, it opens the webpage when they click on it instead of the UI element.
I actually think it's really neat, and have replaced skype with it since it works so widely and doesn't require everyone to have an account to use it.
I saw the tag line, liked what I saw until "powered by Telefonica". Seriously, I've lived in more than half of the European countries for a while, and never ever EVER saw such a shitty internet service as in Spain over their network. Lack of service for hours every day, substandard speeds... It made me anticipate a move to Portugal by one year because of their shitty service.
Telefonica run O2 in the UK, which is a decent mobile network (and the only one which covers my house).
I mean, they do deliver decent internet, but their customer service is awful.
Built with React.js as well! http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/compon...
I hate being "that guy", but what about sites like https://appear.in/ that do this without (seemingly?) depending on browser support? Is this using some novel p2p technique that can't be implemented using just JS? When you send a FF Hello invite to a Chrome user, it works fine. I.o.w.: why is this not just a website?