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Re: Luna – Hack your sleep

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Post by andthat »

begriffs wrote: post #128
deanclatworthy wrote: post #46

My first instinct (being the geek that I am) upon seeing this was it looks great. And having lived in England the majority of my life, with cold houses and heating turned off at night - heated underblankets are a necessity. But as I read through the feature list, I couldn't help feel uncomfortable. Am I the only one that finds this deluge of technology into every aspect of our lives abhorrent? Every single day billio…

Yeah, not sure why geeks seem to have this thing about sleep optimization. Whether it's a wristband to monitor your REM cycles, or a little app to track your sleep habits, or polyphasic weirdness, or now this thing to regulate sleeping parameters. It all points to some kind of psychological issue that many programmers seem to have. For people who tinker with the maddeningly complex systems of software how can the "en…

Do you know what it's like to almost never feel fully rested and not being able to do anything about it? My problem is that I just won't fall asleep within a reasonable amount of time on some days. I am willing to try anything because the ROI would be huge.

One thing that has made a noticeable difference has been exercise though.

Re: Luna – Hack your sleep

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Post by sschueller »

maghis wrote: post #74
azdle wrote: post #26

If any of the creators are reading this, is there any chance you're going to be making this in a hacker-friendly way? I've been contemplating making something sorta like this myself (although much less ambitious) and I'd really like to be able to integrate it into other smart things that I have going in my house. Also, just out of curiosity, what are you using for the WiFi connectivity? I've been playing with a bunch…

Yes, I'm the CTO of the company. The product will have an open (and well documented) REST API from the day we ship. Our app and website will use the same exact API that 3rd party developers will use. Apps will have to levels of data access permission: sleep patterns only and raw data (they will have to ask access to the user). We are taking a lot from OSS and we want to give back and contribute to the community, we w…

Any plans to make a none wifi version (or a way to turn that off and connect via RJ45)? Where is the wifi antenna in relation to the head?

I try to avoid sleeping to close to my phone as well as other wifi/bluetooth enabled devices as it does appear to have an affect on my sleep quality.

Re: Luna – Hack your sleep

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Post by yCloser »

I'll tell you what: this device is great, really

BUT: a microphone where I and my wife sleep and have sex? you either put an HARDWARE switch to turn it off (or even better, permit me to unplug the cable) or not gonna happen in my house

Re: Luna – Hack your sleep

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Post by delian66 »

tericho wrote: post #86
gallamine wrote: post #39

I've noticed my sleep quality is strongly correlated with my room temperature, but being in a moderate climate I find that I need my bed and room colder to sleep better. Looks like this only provides heating.

As someone who struggles mightily with sleep I can tell you it's science not preference that makes you prefer cold. I can't find the original source of this fact but here is a decent alternative[1]. > ...scientists were able to lower skin temperature less than a degree Centrigrade without affecting core body temperature. The changes were dramatic. People didn't wake up as much during the night and the percentage of t…

That article is wrong. The quote that you gave, is contradicted in the last paragraph of the same article: >> Recent research by Dutch scientists found that by increasing skin temperature the sleep quality in elderly people could be enhanced.

Also the study, that the article links to [0] says:

By employing a thermosuit to control skin temperature during nocturnal sleep, we demonstrate that induction of a mere 0.4 degrees C increase in skin temperature, whilst not altering core temperature, suppresses nocturnal wakefulness (Pincrease in skin temperature was sufficient to almost double the proportion of nocturnal slow wave sleep and to decrease the probability of early morning awakening from 0.58 to 0.04. Therefore, skin warming strongly improved the two most typical age-related sleep problems; a decreased slow wave sleep and an increased risk of early morning awakening.

[0] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18192289?dopt=Abstract

Re: Luna – Hack your sleep

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Post by hellodevnull »

andthat wrote: post #131
begriffs wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, not sure why geeks seem to have this thing about sleep optimization. Whether it's a wristband to monitor your REM cycles, or a little app to track your sleep habits, or polyphasic weirdness, or now this thing to regulate sleeping parameters. It all points to some kind of psychological issue that many programmers seem to have. For people who tinker with the maddeningly complex systems of software how can the "en…

Do you know what it's like to almost never feel fully rested and not being able to do anything about it? My problem is that I just won't fall asleep within a reasonable amount of time on some days. I am willing to try anything because the ROI would be huge. One thing that has made a noticeable difference has been exercise though.

You answered your own question partly. It's simple, exercise and don't sit in front of a computer screen all night. Yet most people won't do this and complain that they have "insomnia" (the word has been overused to the point that going to bed past midnight now makes you an insomniac) and seem to think they now need pill/technology.

Re: Luna – Hack your sleep

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Post by charliefg »

ryanmcbride wrote: post #78
deanclatworthy wrote: post #46

My first instinct (being the geek that I am) upon seeing this was it looks great. And having lived in England the majority of my life, with cold houses and heating turned off at night - heated underblankets are a necessity. But as I read through the feature list, I couldn't help feel uncomfortable. Am I the only one that finds this deluge of technology into every aspect of our lives abhorrent? Every single day billio…

Just because it's not something that's necessary, doesn't mean that it's bad or "abhorrent". I want to live in a future with cyborg bodies and star trek doors and if you don't, well then I feel sorry for you.

That's an interesting one - I like the idea of technology allowing a more inclusive society; enhancing mobility to some people to get them to the shops, allow other people to use steps; maybe one day those who wish to regain their sight or maybe get it for the first time. However -- as with everything in nature -- it also has a dark side.

First, which is far more a philosophical addition to my previous point - it's defining a norm. To some extent this is unavoidable; it is essentially saying that to be at a normal functional level you need sight, be able to walk, etc. So the question is - is a more inclusive society one that is setup for a whole spectrum of people or one that enables people's bodies to bring them to a functionally 'equal' footing? It's probably somewhere in the middle.

The other part, which I know I've experienced, is that the more unnecessarily engaged I was with technology -- more so with hi-tech -- the more detached I was with the actual world around me. So, for instance, walking around outside listening to music in headphones; walking around outside with a mobile phone (especially a smart phone). Nowadays, unless I have a damn good reason to take it with me (The only one that comes to mind is playing a set), I go around outside with clothes and maybe bags and leave everything else at home. On the rare occasion I've found that a mobile phone might have been useful, but those occasions are mainly when I've relied on a car to take me beyond walking distance. The cycle of reliance.

Since placing this limit on myself, It's challenged me to be more engaged with the environment around me, more mindful in myself and I've found this has made me much happier and my environment more colourful. Trying to strike the balance is good, and I enjoy walking the tight rope. However cyborg bodies starts entering a whole new domain - the idea of being chained to technology because it's a part of my body seems horrible to me; there would be no relief from it.

If people want society to go that way, fair enough. However, I personally won't encourage unnecessary integration with bodies because that's not the world I want to live in.

Re: Luna – Hack your sleep

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Post by smaps »

tempestn wrote: post #121
tremendo wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More than Black Mirror, it reminded me of Wall-e, where humans have become so atrophied from not doing anything. I need a device to rid me of the burden of locking the door, or putting on some PJ's. Ironically the constant use of screens and devices emitting blue-light even in bed has a more direct (and detrimental) impact on sleep quality than all those sensors, and the small cognitive-bandwidth gain, will. And of c…

Naturally, there's an app for that. Lux solves the nighttime light temperature problem for Android. (Similar to the desktop program F.lux.)

I hadn't heard of Lux before, but I've been using Twilight on my Android and I like it. Will have to check out Lux to see if it's better.

Re: Luna – Hack your sleep

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Post by tempestn »

smaps wrote: post #137
tempestn wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Naturally, there's an app for that. Lux solves the nighttime light temperature problem for Android. (Similar to the desktop program F.lux.)

I hadn't heard of Lux before, but I've been using Twilight on my Android and I like it. Will have to check out Lux to see if it's better.

I recall choosing Lux over Twilight based on features and reviews, but that was a couple years ago. Let me knowwwhich you prefer!

Re: Luna – Hack your sleep

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Post by maghis »

lazyman12345 wrote: post #87

Polyester, how wonderful. Any benefit this provides is cancelled by using polyester instead of some good breathable material. I think I'd rather use a "dumb" wool cover.

There are many reasons why we picked Polyester, the number one being that our product needs to be washable.

If you look at the tech specs section on http://lunasleep.com you'll notice from the drawings that a mattress pad is composed of multiple layers, if we use natural fibers for all the layers, say for the filling (batting), the product would never dry and could grow mold (that's why ALL the heating pads on the market and most mattress pads are made of polyester).

One thing we could do is think about a premium version with the top layer (and maybe the bottom layer?) made of 100% cotton. Such a product would cost a little more (about $30) and take a little longer to dry completely after washing.

Would you guys be interested in such a premium product?

EDIT: formatting

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