LSD Effect : The deadly accident killed four people, including a policeman, and caused serious injuries to four others. http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2015/01/22/police-confirm...
LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? (2006)
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Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? (2006)
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
This bit of fear, uncertainty, and doubt was brought to you by the Institute For Armchair Psychonauts Who Never Use Drugs.
So advice like this: > 4. Be skeptical, read the literature; understand the risks you are taking. is bad? Is the idea that we should turn off critical thought and blindly accept pro-LSD arguments, while blindly rejecting the anti-LSD arguments? That seems backwards.
But I'll be down voted to oblivion for calling you a propagandist for doing things that propagandists do. So this is me not calling you one.
Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? (2006)
#163My friend and university classmate - a kind of wounderkind. He was accepted to university without exams, because he had great results on programming olympics. Turned out he was also good at chemistry. When he was around 8 his mother arranged him to take chemistry classes with elder schoolchildren. But he dropped the classes because he was borred - he already knew everything taught there. In university he tried drugs…
Suicide is one of the most common causes of deaths for young men. Overall, 1-2 people per 100 will die by suicide.
Here is a new large epidemiology study which found that people who used psychedelics had lower rate of suicidal thoughts and suicide attempt: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/22/psychedelic-researc...
It's important to take a statistical perspective when talking about risk.
Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? (2006)
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
So advice like this: > 4. Be skeptical, read the literature; understand the risks you are taking. is bad? Is the idea that we should turn off critical thought and blindly accept pro-LSD arguments, while blindly rejecting the anti-LSD arguments? That seems backwards.
That's right. Pretend the other three points not only didn't exist, but weren't directly contradictory to the point you quoted. But I'll be down voted to oblivion for calling you a propagandist for doing things that propagandists do. So this is me not calling you one.
Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? (2006)
#165I actually tried LSD a couple of times because of this article, back when it was written. It was a pretty enjoyable experience, and I'd recommend it to anyone who is interested in trying it, with a few caveats. First, you need to have an experienced sitter with you. You're in for the full 8-10 hours, and on the off chance you start having a bad trip (things getting really dark and scary), you need someone to ground y…
Third, go out into nature if you can. Preferably with just your friends and not a lot of people around. It's pretty cool. LSD impairs your ability to feel cold. People have died by taking drugs and then going out into snow. I sadly can't find the proof to back up my claim, but I read about a case of a girl taking ketamine and then going outside and succumbing to hypothermia. Here's another case of someone dying from…
Turner and this woman's case are covered in _Ketamine: Dreams and Realities_ http://www.maps.org/books/K-DreamsKJansenMAPS.pdf , by Jansen; he argues that there are extenuating circumstances in those cases and it's not as simple as 'ketamine killed them'.
Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? (2006)
#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
Really? What is the law?
Article L.3421-4 of the "Code de la Santé Publique" (law concerning public health) forbids incitation/encouragement of the usage or traffic of classified narcotics, even if it does not lead to anyone actually using them. The sentence is heaviest if it's done near schools. Isn't there something vaguely equivalent in US law? The interesting part is that the act of presenting classified narcotics under a favorable light…
No, but evangelizing LSD might cause the criminal-justice system to search for other crimes to charge you with.
Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? (2006)
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are unlikely to see them go public while it is forbidden to do so, but the list of people who used LSD includes some pretty interesting people. Personally I run on sleep and quietness, but I think I would be able to put cannabis to good use when it becomes legal where I live. I have found that small quantities allow for a greater concentration on the condition that you refrain smoking to much and not drink any al…
>the list of people who used LSD includes some pretty interesting people. This is the definition of survivorship bias.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysergic_acid_diethylamide#Pote...
Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? (2006)
#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's right. Pretend the other three points not only didn't exist, but weren't directly contradictory to the point you quoted. But I'll be down voted to oblivion for calling you a propagandist for doing things that propagandists do. So this is me not calling you one.
You are being downvoted for your ridiculously hostile tone.
Either way, thank you for the commentary. There have been times I actually didn't understand the downvotes, and your posts were rather enlightening.
Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? (2006)
#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd say the first point is kind of important, considering it's a synthetic drug and not a plant. I have no anecdotes for LSD, but a few people died in my city after only a normal dose of ecstasy (no alcohol).
Pure mdma would not kill anyone at a normal dose. Test your pills everyone!
Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? (2006)
#170Reminds me of Richard Feyman taking LSD. He said he had an incredible breakthrough and a moment of pure clarity on a problem he had been working on mid-trip, only to come down and realize his breakthrough was really jibberish and not insightful at all.
Everyone probably has experienced dreams where they stumble upon a powerful, deep, great idea. Upon waking up, the idea generally turns out to be trivial.
Psychedelics and entheogenics often give you the feeling of profundity. They put you in the same mind state you have when you contemplate a truly deep thought, but that doesn't necessarily mean the thoughts are particularly deep.
That said, that doesn't make the experience entirely valueless. First of all, it's fun and interesting, just like riding a roller coaster, reading a book about optical illusions, or listening to music.
Second, many of the insights gained are actually valuable. Not as much as they initially appear under the influence of the drug, but still valuable afterwards. It's an occasion to explore thoughts under many angle, to make connections between unrelated topics. You'll end up throwing out more than half of the ideas the next day, but a few might stick.