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LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? (2006)

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Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? (2006)

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Post by Igglyboo »

acd wrote: post #38

So we have Lsd, amphetamine, mescaline, ritalin, provigil as mind drugs. Anyone tried Ritalin or provigil long term? The army uses amphetamine & provigil during long term flying missing during critical operations. So what is illegal for ordinary citizens is legal for the state. Side not Steve Jobs tried a lot of drugs in India probably a door opener for his mind as have a lot of brilliant rock artists danger being no…

I've been taking adderall(similar to Ritalin) since I was about 12, I'm 22 now. I have actual ADHD and cannot function at work without it, I cannot focus on one thing for more than a few minutes tops. I'm a software developer so this is a huge problem. I had hoped I would grow out of this so I didn't have to take it but I don't see that happening anymore.

AFAIK it hasn't had any negative long term effects on me, short term it kills my appetite so I have to force myself to eat. It was a problem when I was younger, I was severely underweight during highschool but I've been able to manage my weight well for the past few years.

Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? (2006)

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Post by Ollinson »

ShannonSofield wrote: post #20

Reminds me of Richard Feyman taking LSD. He said he had an incredible breakthrough and a moment of pure clarity on a problem he had been working on mid-trip, only to come down and realize his breakthrough was really jibberish and not insightful at all.

>Feynman was rumored to have used LSD in the late 1960s a handful of times. Feynman denied using hallucinogens, saying he was too scared to damage his brain, but there are credible reports that he did take LSD at least once around 1970.

Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? (2006)

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Post by reitanqild »

Pyret wrote: post #36

Human biology is an extreme hurdle on our way to achieve the unachievable: having to sleep, eat, excrete etc. Are there any tech and drugs being developed to deal with these things? For now I'd be contempt to at least control my sexuality :D

Going a few days w/o much food is quite easy for some of us, -I would skip meals after 1800 in the evening and then skip breakfast and then I could go a few days w/o more than a couple of glasses of orange juice a day. I only did this for less than a week. My uncle said most of the good effects started kicking in after a 3-5 days.

As usual, be careful, I'd say have sugar around.

As for the last point you mentioned there are drugs for this, I just have a feeling you'd rather try without but I'm no expert.

Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? (2006)

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Post by Ollinson »

Shamanmuni wrote: post #40
xefer wrote: post #16

Well, I'm still waiting for the fellowship of LSD-fueled Übermenschen to emerge. Until then I'll just try to eat well, exercise more and get enough sleep. That seems to be the key for most elite developers I've encountered.

If you read "What the Dormouse Said" by John Markoff you could reach the conclusion that a fellowship of LSD-fueled Übermenschen existed during the 60's and 70's and we had the personal computer revolution as a result. And no, I'm not talking just about Steve Jobs and Apple, there were many people involved with the nascent computer industry who turned on, tuned in and dropped out at that time.

Unless you can link other eras of technological advance to LSD use this seems like a poor argument.

Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? (2006)

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Post by jwdunne »

ShannonSofield wrote: post #20

Reminds me of Richard Feyman taking LSD. He said he had an incredible breakthrough and a moment of pure clarity on a problem he had been working on mid-trip, only to come down and realize his breakthrough was really jibberish and not insightful at all.

Reminds me of my first experience. The trip involved getting something huge, like a big sense of "oh, I finally get it" but now, 3 years later, I'm still trying to figure out what I actually got.

Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? (2006)

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Post by Igglyboo »

dynsrv wrote: post #5

LSD Effect : The deadly accident killed four people, including a policeman, and caused serious injuries to four others. http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2015/01/22/police-confirm...

I don't think single person advocates operating heavy machinery while under the influence of any mind altering drug, legal or not. LSD can be safe to use while at the same time unsafe to drive on, just like alcohol or cannabis.

Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? (2006)

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Post by Ollinson »

Iv wrote: post #34
xefer wrote: post #16

Well, I'm still waiting for the fellowship of LSD-fueled Übermenschen to emerge. Until then I'll just try to eat well, exercise more and get enough sleep. That seems to be the key for most elite developers I've encountered.

You are unlikely to see them go public while it is forbidden to do so, but the list of people who used LSD includes some pretty interesting people. Personally I run on sleep and quietness, but I think I would be able to put cannabis to good use when it becomes legal where I live. I have found that small quantities allow for a greater concentration on the condition that you refrain smoking to much and not drink any al…

>the list of people who used LSD includes some pretty interesting people.

This is the definition of survivorship bias.

Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? (2006)

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Post by beachstartup »

acd wrote: post #38

So we have Lsd, amphetamine, mescaline, ritalin, provigil as mind drugs. Anyone tried Ritalin or provigil long term? The army uses amphetamine & provigil during long term flying missing during critical operations. So what is illegal for ordinary citizens is legal for the state. Side not Steve Jobs tried a lot of drugs in India probably a door opener for his mind as have a lot of brilliant rock artists danger being no…

> The army uses amphetamine & provigil during long term flying missing during critical operations. So what is illegal for ordinary citizens is legal for the state.

i have no military experience, but wouldn't the army administer these drugs through medical professionals in a narrow set of circumstances, like a civilian doctor would? i doubt soldiers are allowed to take these meds whenever they want.

amphetamines (adderall) and provigil are prescribed to civilian citizens as well.

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